- Joined
- Aug 19, 2006
- Messages
- 6,240
- Reaction score
- 1,434
America is a very nationalistic country though. So lets promote Nationalistic Socialism. Actually, lets go one step further. Bernie supports workers rights and has called immigration a scheme of the Kock brothers so lets have a Nationalist Socialist Workers Party. Let's go after the undesirables who hoard the wealth. These international capitalists.
No. You just get an A for quotes out of context. Hitler said that during a speech to try to broaden the Nazis support by appealing to the base of one of his main political rivals, the actual Left wing socialists (the guys he later rounded up and threw into concentration camps). It would be like a Republican today saying, "The Republican Party is the party of social justice."You people think all Hitler did was kill jews, wasn't like the Nazi state didn't promise jobs to all citizens by government, government-run education, Nationalized Healthcare, and gun control.
Sounds like you got a D in history.
Correct on all points lolDemocratic Socialism not the same thing as socialism. Regulating companies and markets is the only thing that keeps us from being a neofeudal society. With the rise of neoliberalism in the last 35 years we're barely hanging on as it is. Depending on how this administration goes, the American dream could be wrapping up soon. Also, TS is a known idiot.
No. You just get an A for quotes out of context. Hitler said that during a speech to try to broaden the Nazis support by appealing to the base of one of his main political rivals, the actual Left wing socialists (the guys he later rounded up and threw into concentration camps). It would be like a Republican today saying, "The Republican Party is the party of social justice."
http://historyandpolitics77.blogspot.com/2011/03/we-are-socialists-debunked.html
Right, because socialism was the defining factor of nazism.
Even though "Among the earliest victims of discrimination and persecution in nazi Germany were political opponents including Communists, Socialists, social democrats and trade union leaders."
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007329
But hey, Nazi had social in the name, so I guess that trumps reality.
#alternativefacts
Sorry I posted a link to someone who had actually read the whole speech and talked about that quote in context rather than just an awesome meme.Well if Blogspot says so, then clearly the Nazis didn't support jobs to all citizens by government, government-run education, Nationalized Healthcare, and gun control.
Social in the name has little to do with it and more of the substance of what the party did and preached. Not implementing it is besides the point, it's what they said to gain favor.Right, because socialism was the defining factor of nazism.
Even though "Among the earliest victims of discrimination and persecution in nazi Germany were political opponents including Communists, Socialists, social democrats and trade union leaders."
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007329
But hey, Nazi had social in the name, so...
Probably true, but it doesn't mean we couldn't provide a much better social safety net.I think socialist policies are better fit for small, culturally homogeneous societies.
Right, but that doesn't make those socialistic promises inherently bad.Social in the name has little to do with it and more of the substance of what the party did and preached. Not implementing it is besides the point, it's what they said to gain favor.
That safety net (or a large component of it) arguably caused more problems than it solved...Probably true, but it doesn't mean we couldn't provide a much better social safety net.
That safety net (or a large component of it) arguably caused more problems than it solved...
For David Green, head of the Detroit chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), Donald Trump's victory in November was both distressing and cause for optimism in his quest to pull the Democratic Party to the left.
"We need a party that’s open to progressive forces, and that’s why we have to elect progressive leadership within the party," Green said, while attending the Michigan Democratic Party's spring convention in Detroit earlier this month.
Membership in the DSA, founded in 1982, has surged since Trump's election on Nov. 8, putting the movement in a position to make inroads on the Democratic Party's energized left. The membership gains are fueled by supporters of Bernie Sanders, the U.S. Senator from Vermont who sought the Democratic presidential nomination last year.
The DSA is not a political party, but it supports many of the same short-term policy positions as the Sanders wing of the Democratic Party: a $15 minimum wage, single-payer healthcare, free college, and opposition to free-trade deals.
But unlike most mainstream Democrats, the DSA also has a long-term vision of a democratic socialist society in the vein of countries like Sweden and Denmark, where workers have a more direct say in how their jobs and the economy are run, alongside a more robust public sector.
Since November, national membership has almost tripled to about 17,000. Its leaders have said meetings are packed and new chapters are cropping up nationwide, including in Rust Belt states such as Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio, where Trump scored upset wins over Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton to take the White House.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-demsocialists-idUSKBN16014M
No matter how many times socialism has failed in history, socialists always believe that socialism just hasn't been implemented "the right way"