Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by shadow_priest_x, Nov 14, 2017.
The ignorance being spewed in this thread is absolutely ludicrous.
Dude, I just read through the article again and you are literally making this shit up.
No where does it say anyone can't afford a gym membership. Nowhere does it say they didn't have time to workout.
The issue is that if their metabolisms are so badly damaged that the expectations regarding diet and exercise are unreasonable, then that's a problem.
If the average 200 lb man can maintain his weight on 2200 calories, but because of what happened on the show a 200 lb contestant who appeared on the show is resigned to a 1400 calorie diet to achieve the same feat, then you can't just blow that off.
It does say some of them had trouble with their diet.
But that has nothing to do with the study that shows theit metabolisms, which would normally be expected to bounce back, simply have not done so.
A normal person can have a less-then-perfect diet and still not get fat as hell. I mean, I drink a 12 pack of beer 3 to 4 times a week, and eat like shit a lot of the time, and my weight stays around 165 regardless. That's a little heavier than I would like, but it does underscore the fact that these guys are facing some kind of challenge that I don't personally face. And there's a medical study showing that at least part of that challenge is due to what they were put through on the show.
Crazy shit if true, but I wouldn't be surprised. Still I don't believe the blame can be put all on the show. I'm sure the contestants (who knows what number of them) didn't do their part when going back home.
Well the discussion here is specifically about whether or not the methods used on the show damaged these people's metabolism in a way that a normal exercise program would not.
I haven't read the study, but does it control for the possibility that being 300+ pounds for many years permanently damaged their metabolism? From (quickly) scanning the thread, it seems like the comparison is made between Biggest Loser veterans and people who were never morbidly obese, rather than Biggest Loser veterans and people who lost hundreds of pounds my more "conventional" means.
I don't think that's information we have at this time. But it is worth bearing in mind that researchers are the NIH aren't going to be scrubs.
For the record, what is the NIH exactly? Well:
To listen to some of the posters in here, who got all this figured out, they really should consider offering their services as consultants so they can set the NIH straight.
That just sounds like a bad study. That's not how the metabolism works.
I know what the NIH is. Researchers compare imperfectly controlled populations all the time. Sometimes because that's all they have to compare, occasionally because they're doofuses that design their studies poorly.
Like I said, I haven't read the study or even read the thread carefully. But if the conclusions are based on a study that leaves out the possible consequences of (up to) decades of morbid obesity on metabolism (and the various things like endocrinology that affect metabolism), then it would be premature (in my opinion) to start specifically blaming The Biggest Loser for those consequences with great confidence.
Dude, everyone has different metabolisms. I have a pretty shitty one. I have to watch what I eat and work out regularly to not get fat while others around me don't put in half the work. It's a part of life.
So yes I'd expect a former fatbody who got down to 200 lbs to have a completely different metabolism than someone who has spent their entire life at that weight.
I'm guessing the people who gained the weight back went back to their former habits.
I think there is still a lot we don't understand about metabolism and exactly why some people tend to store fat more easily than others.
So its the TV Show's fault that this sad pieces of shit got fat again?
lol 2017 folks
Let me ask you this, just hypothetically:
You already have a shitty metabolism. So what if you put body and health into the hands of supposedly qualified medical professionals and personal trainers, and as a direct result of the shit they had you do, your already shitty metabolism became even shittier?
For the purposes of this discussion, let's say that actually happened. Would you be pissed about it or would you just go, "Well, that's life!"
Despite that, someone becoming physically larger would necessitate a higher metabolism. Otherwise, people would lose involuntary bodily functions. Organ function would crash. So any notion that people gained massive amounts of weight with no change to metabolism would mean two things:
1: They would die. Pretty quickly.
2: If they didn't die in some weird parallel universe in which metabolisms stay static despite the size of the body, they would perpetually gain weight at a steady, unyielding rate.
Neither of those things seem to be happening, so the study is probably junk science.
Kai Hibbard told The New York Times that "she and other contestants would drink as little water as possible in the 24 hours before a weigh-in" and would "work out in as much clothing as possible" when the cameras were off. She further stated that two weeks after the show ended, she had regained about 31 pounds, mostly from staying hydrated
Sorry but no
You dont gain 31 pounds from drinking water
You should probably get a grip on the actual discussion we're having before posting.
I'm reading the article from New York Post that you mentioned lmfao
Maybe you should have read it a little better
Oh, I read it three times, because I had to call someone out on their bullshit ITT and I wanted to make sure I was right.
One of the contestants from one of the seasons lived in my town. I was eating lunch with the wife in health conscious cafe and the contestant came in with her trainer/coach. Someone recognized them and it was cordial and friendly and they insisted no pictures and asked everyone not to social media the bit. Girl looked great. You'd never guess she had been gigantic such a short time ago.
I suggested the portabello mushroom soup. Its fantastic. Tastes like youre eating beef gravy. The trainer was almost fearful and warned her that it had flour in it. That's when it all began to make sense: this is shock weight loss. Very bad. They'd be much better served by losing that weight over three to four years instead of 14 months.
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