Since Israel has Nukes...

[Sketch]

I wonder why? It's a great mystery. We'll never know.

 

[all caps]

Kvolcom is really looking to fall out of a 4 story window imo

 

[Trotsky]

What is factually wrong with that? Can’t bitch about Israel having a disproportionate influence on US foreign policy but disagree with that

Factually? Perhaps nothing. Rhetorically, though, I tend to disassociate myself from words used as stand-ins for racial slurs and within kooky conspiracies.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

First of all, the Pentagon admitted years ago that Israel has nukes.
After five decades of pretending otherwise, the Pentagon has reluctantly confirmed that Israel does indeed possess nuclear bombs, as well as awesome weapons technology similar to America’s.

And Mordechai Vanunu exposed her nuclear weapons program in the '60s. He has spent most of his life in prison for his honesty.

Your article says:
“The SOREQ center,” it said, for instance, “runs the full nuclear gamut of activities from engineering, administration and non-destructive testing for electro-optics, pulsed power, process engineering and chemistry and nuclear research and safety. This is the technology base required for nuclear weapons design and fabrication.”

The IDA team added: “It should be noted that the Israelis are developing the kind of codes which will enable them to make hydrogen bombs. That is, codes which detail fission and fusion processes on a microscopic and macroscopic level.” So far, The IDA estimated, Israel scientists were about where the US had been in the 1950s in understanding fission and fusion processes.


The report does not include a single declarative sentence that directly states the taboo—Israel has nukes—but the meaning is obvious.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

As well should be the case. There are more critics of Israel on the left than there are on the right. And for some reason the left is generally able to be critical without using racial slurs, holocaust denial, veiled racial conspiracies, and appeals to stereotypes. You kids on the right need to figure out how to converse like adults as well.

The funny thing is that the jewish organizations still put you guys into hate lists.
I agree with everything else, racial slurs and holocaust denial are counter productive.

About the thread, it's due to the Israeli influence in the congress, on both parties. The GOP is filled with evangelicals that support Israel but see how that man Chuck Schumer acts. Extremely left-wing when dealing with american issues, but his positions in Israel are no different than a republican hawk.

 

[abiG]

Your article says:
“The SOREQ center,” it said, for instance, “runs the full nuclear gamut of activities from engineering, administration and non-destructive testing for electro-optics, pulsed power, process engineering and chemistry and nuclear research and safety. This is the technology base required for nuclear weapons design and fabrication.”

The IDA team added: “It should be noted that the Israelis are developing the kind of codes which will enable them to make hydrogen bombs. That is, codes which detail fission and fusion processes on a microscopic and macroscopic level.” So far, The IDA estimated, Israel scientists were about where the US had been in the 1950s in understanding fission and fusion processes.


The report does not include a single declarative sentence that directly states the taboo—Israel has nukes—but the meaning is obvious.

See also:
In leaked emails, Colin Powell says Israel has 200 nukes

While discussing Iran nuclear deal, former secretary of state apparently reveals extent of Jewish state’s alleged atomic arsenal

And: Former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell alleged that Israel has a nuclear arsenal of 200 warheads

And:
Israel has '200 nukes all pointed at Iran', former US secretary of state says

Interesting. I just looked these up and I would have to agree.

Good.

But I didn't like your post because I didn't want to cosign this bit.

What part of "the zionists get what they want" are you having problems with?

The billions of American's tax dollars annually?

The subservient 'American' mouthpieces in 'our' government and press across the board?

The US vetoing every single UN action ever suggested against her?

 

[meauneau]

It looks like Israel has considerable control and power over the USA.

 

[Deleted member 159002]

Aid to Israel actually violates two amendments to the 1961 Foreign Assistance Act known as the the Symington and Glenn Amendments.

Between Aipac, their ilk, let alone nuclear blackmail itself, the zionists get what they want.

Aren't you Jewish?

 

[Byron Carter]

One hint of antisemitism and this thread will be locked.

Didn't Israel torture the spy who released the information of them having nukes... for like 30 straight years?

Please no banerino.


Mordechai Vanunu
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Vanunu" redirects here. See also Yosef Vanunu.
Mordechai Vanunu

Vanunu in 2009
Born 14 October 1954 (age 63)
Marrakesh, French Morocco
Nationality Israeli
Other names John Crossman
Known for Nuclear whistleblower
Spouse(s) Kristin Joachimsen (m. 2015)
Mordechai Vanunu (Hebrew: מרדכי ואנונו‎; born 14 October 1954), also known as John Crossman,[1][2] is an Israeli former nuclear technician and peace activist[3] who, citing his opposition to weapons of mass destruction, revealed details of Israel's nuclear weapons program to the British press in 1986.[4] He was subsequently lured to Italy by the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad, where he was drugged and abducted.[4] He was secretly transported to Israel and ultimately convicted in a trial that was held behind closed doors.[4]

Vanunu spent 18 years in prison, including more than 11 in solitary confinement. Released from prison in 2004, he became subject to a broad array of restrictions on his speech and movement. Since then he has been arrested several times for violations of those restrictions, including giving various interviews to foreign journalists and attempting to leave Israel. He says he suffered "cruel and barbaric treatment" at the hands of Israeli authorities while imprisoned, and suggests that his treatment would have been different if he had not converted to Christianity from Judaism.[5]

In 2007, Vanunu was sentenced to six months in prison for violating terms of his parole. The sentence was considered unusual even by the prosecution who expected a suspended sentence. In response, Amnesty International issued a press release on 2 July 2007, stating that "The organisation considers Mordechai Vanunu to be a prisoner of conscience and calls for his immediate and unconditional release."[6]

In May 2010, Vanunu was arrested and sentenced to three months in jail on a charge that he met foreigners in violation of conditions of his 2004 release from jail. Vanunu has been characterized internationally as a whistleblower[7][8] and by Israel as a traitor.[9][10][11][12]

Daniel Ellsberg has referred to him as "the preeminent hero of the nuclear era".[13]

 

[bushman505]

Didn't Israel torture the spy who released the information of them having nukes... for like 30 straight years?

Please no banerino.


Mordechai Vanunu
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Vanunu" redirects here. See also Yosef Vanunu.
Mordechai Vanunu

Vanunu in 2009
Born 14 October 1954 (age 63)
Marrakesh, French Morocco
Nationality Israeli
Other names John Crossman
Known for Nuclear whistleblower
Spouse(s) Kristin Joachimsen (m. 2015)
Mordechai Vanunu (Hebrew: מרדכי ואנונו‎; born 14 October 1954), also known as John Crossman,[1][2] is an Israeli former nuclear technician and peace activist[3] who, citing his opposition to weapons of mass destruction, revealed details of Israel's nuclear weapons program to the British press in 1986.[4] He was subsequently lured to Italy by the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad, where he was drugged and abducted.[4] He was secretly transported to Israel and ultimately convicted in a trial that was held behind closed doors.[4]

Vanunu spent 18 years in prison, including more than 11 in solitary confinement. Released from prison in 2004, he became subject to a broad array of restrictions on his speech and movement. Since then he has been arrested several times for violations of those restrictions, including giving various interviews to foreign journalists and attempting to leave Israel. He says he suffered "cruel and barbaric treatment" at the hands of Israeli authorities while imprisoned, and suggests that his treatment would have been different if he had not converted to Christianity from Judaism.[5]

In 2007, Vanunu was sentenced to six months in prison for violating terms of his parole. The sentence was considered unusual even by the prosecution who expected a suspended sentence. In response, Amnesty International issued a press release on 2 July 2007, stating that "The organisation considers Mordechai Vanunu to be a prisoner of conscience and calls for his immediate and unconditional release."[6]

In May 2010, Vanunu was arrested and sentenced to three months in jail on a charge that he met foreigners in violation of conditions of his 2004 release from jail. Vanunu has been characterized internationally as a whistleblower[7][8] and by Israel as a traitor.[9][10][11][12]

Daniel Ellsberg has referred to him as "the preeminent hero of the nuclear era".[13]

 

[snakedafunky]

It is the US that is taking advantage of Israel. How many Jews are left like 16 million 8 or so in Israel have control over the US?
Give me a break the US is simply using Israel as another pawn to keep control over middle east oil.
Having a united and peaceful middle east is not something that is in US interest they need it to be divided

This whole "its Israel fault" the US goes to war is BS.
That's just something Americans like to tell themselves because they don't like to admit that they are the most warmongering regime in human history.
Just look at the US track record they have involved in plenty of wars before Israel. They have had the same strategy in South America without Israel also.

The Jews simply don't have anywhere near the power people like to claim they have. They couldn't prevent the Nazi's from killing millions of them.
But now 75 years later with considerably fewer people and less capital, they are somehow able to control the US?

 

[Black Helicopters]

It is the US that is taking advantage of Israel. How many Jews are left like 16 million 8 or so in Israel have control over the US?
Give me a break the US is simply using Israel as another pawn to keep control over middle east oil.
Having a united and peaceful middle east is not something that is in US interest they need it to be divided

This whole "its Israel fault" the US goes to war is BS.
That's just something Americans like to tell themselves because they don't like to admit that they are the most warmongering regime in human history.
Just look at the US track record they have involved in plenty of wars before Israel. They have had the same strategy in South America without Israel also.

The Jews simply don't have anywhere near the power people like to claim they have. They couldn't prevent the Nazi's from killing millions of them.
But now 75 years later with considerably fewer people and less capital, they are somehow able to control the US?

Jews are not even the main group of Israel supporters in America, that belongs to Evangelicals.

Both have deep pockets and deep devotion to Israel

They absolutely are in large part responsible for what we do in the Middle East

 

[snakedafunky]

Jews are not even the main group of Israel supporters in America, that belongs to Evangelicals.

Both have deep pockets and deep devotion to Israel

They absolutely are in large part responsible for what we do in the Middle East

What does the US radicalizing Afghanistan, invading Iraq or removing Gaddafi has to do with Israel?
Nothing you are just using Israel as another foreign policy tool to have influence and a presence in the middle east.
Not that there is anything wrong with that. The US is just looking out for themselves like they always have.
But you do that all over the world. Not just in the middle east.

 

[Black Helicopters]

What does the US radicalizing Afghanistan, invading Iraq or removing Gaddafi has to do with Israel?
Nothing you are just using Israel as another foreign policy tool to have influence and a presence in the middle east.
Not that there is anything wrong with that. The US is just looking out for themselves like they always have.
But you do that all over the world. Not just in the middle east.

Who is blaming Afghanistan or Libya on Israel?

The constant boner to attack Iran and their allies is due to Israel, fortunately due to the unpopularity of Iraq and Afghanistan we haven’t done much.

Also it isn’t just Israel but Saudi Arabia influencing what we do in the ME

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

It is the US that is taking advantage of Israel. How many Jews are left like 16 million 8 or so in Israel have control over the US?
Give me a break the US is simply using Israel as another pawn to keep control over middle east oil.
Having a united and peaceful middle east is not something that is in US interest they need it to be divided

This whole "its Israel fault" the US goes to war is BS.
That's just something Americans like to tell themselves because they don't like to admit that they are the most warmongering regime in human history.
Just look at the US track record they have involved in plenty of wars before Israel. They have had the same strategy in South America without Israel also.

The Jews simply don't have anywhere near the power people like to claim they have. They couldn't prevent the Nazi's from killing millions of them.
But now 75 years later with considerably fewer people and less capital, they are somehow able to control the US?

How does a divided middle east helps the USA?
Moreover, if anything, the hate against Israel is what unites the Arabs. It transcends religion and even ethnicity. It was the reason so many muslims aligned with the godless communists of the USSR, to oppose Israel.

 

[snakedafunky]

Who is blaming Afghanistan or Libya on Israel?

The constant boner to attack Iran and their allies is due to Israel, fortunately due to the unpopularity of Iraq and Afghanistan we haven’t done much.

Also it isn’t just Israel but Saudi Arabia influencing what we do in the ME

You said in large part Israel is dictating middle east policy. The constant boner on Iran comes from Iran messing with their oil supply.
The same thing that brought down Saddam will bring down Iran.
The US couldn't care any less about Israelis. They didn't care about the Jews being gassed by the Nazi's and they don't care about them being killed by Muslims.
The US only cares about US interest and that is the oil. As soon as there is no more oil. There will be no more support for Israel because it is not in US interest anymore.

The US is playing the same game everywhere. If you are messing with your oil supply heading to the market you are getting trouble with the US.
It's not something that is just limited to the middle east or Israel.

 

[snakedafunky]

How does a divided middle east helps the USA?
Moreover, if anything, the hate against Israel is what unites the Arabs. It transcends religion and even ethnicity. It was the reason so many muslims aligned with the godless communists of the USSR, to oppose Israel.

Because a united middle east could set its own agenda when it comes to the oil supply.
They can't do that now. Because if they do its operation "Iraqi freedom 2.0".

That's why the US has funded each side in every conflict in the middle east at some point.
They have funded the Taliban or Bin laden now they fight them.
They funded Saddam they fought him after.
They funded Syrian rebels soon the will fight them.

I mean that is not something that is limited to the middle east destabilizing regions around the World has been US foreign policy for over 100 years.
As long as its beneficial for the US. It doesn't matter how the local population suffers or what a few million Jews in the desert think about it.

 

[oldshadow]

You bitch about aid to Israel but don't bitch about aid to Pakistan.

 

[ocfightfan]

Because Israel is the best thing going in the M.E. However bad you imagine them to be they are far better than the other players there or whatever corrupt arab dictatorship would replace them.

 

[Black Helicopters]

You said in large part Israel is dictating middle east policy. The constant boner on Iran comes from Iran messing with their oil supply.
The same thing that brought down Saddam will bring down Iran.
The US couldn't care any less about Israelis. They didn't care about the Jews being gassed by the Nazi's and they don't care about them being killed by Muslims.
The US only cares about US interest and that is the oil. As soon as there is no more oil. There will be no more support for Israel because it is not in US interest anymore.

The US is playing the same game everywhere. If you are messing with your oil supply heading to the market you are getting trouble with the US.
It's not something that is just limited to the middle east or Israel.

Jews =/= Israel

Evangelicals would willingly die for Israel because it’s part of the prophecy or some shit.

Jews being gassed in Germany cannot be compared to supporting Israel as a state, fulfilling biblical prophecy.

I don’t see how you pretend that Israel does not have disproportionate influence on American policy when Benjamin Netanyahu had the red carpet rolled out for him in America, with a standing ovation while American politicians openly showed contempt for Obama (In my opinion one of the most shameful days in American history)

By the way what do you mean by Iran “messing with their oil”?