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Julius_Caesar
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You've probably heard me bring this up before but I thought I'd make a thread about this because cant help but notice there are several similarities between Floyd and most stadium fighters. For whatever reason why they share these similarities is not the point of this thread. This thread is just me pointing them out.
Single shots instead of combos:
Most Thai's tend to throw single precise shots rather than combos (most of the time) and you can also see this in their training. Floyd especially during the later part of his career also throws a lot of single shots that are very accurate.
The use of the clinch:
Obviously you cant compare clinching in Muaythai to clinching in boxing but most Thai's that transition to kickboxing don't really fight on the inside. Instead they use the clinch effectively to shut down a fighters offence. Especially aggressive fighters. A good example is comparing Petpanomrungs fight against Roosmalen to Floyds fight against Pacquiao. They were both very effective in shutting their opponents down. Clinching/tying up in kb and boxing is frowned upon but its one of those things that will always be there no matter how strict a promotion is. Its instinctive especially when a fighters in trouble and I think most of the time knowing how to use it effectively separates great fighters from good fighters.
On the back foot:
This is one of the most frustrating things casual fans bring up. That a fighter is winning because he was moving forward and the other lost because he was moving back and somehow that must mean that the fighter moving forward controls the ring which is not always true. Its not sumo wrestling. You don't win by moving forward and pushing your opponent out of the circle. There is a ring for a reason and fighters like Floyd and plenty of Thai's like to be on the back foot, counter and use the ring to its full extent. Once again I heard this a lot in the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight and both roosmalens fights against sittichai and Petpanomrung.
Point scoring:
Floyd is known in the later part of his career to win by outscoring his opponents. The stadiums are big on point scoring and most of the time Thai's win decisions instead of KO's. Its not that they can't KO fighters but its that they don't always feel the need to go for the KO especially when they are already up on the scorecards. Its not always the most glamorous but its smart and sometimes its good to play it safe.
Training:
In Thailand a lot of the training is traditional based. Its very repetitive and instinctive. You would rarely catch a Thai or Floyd doing what ever the fuck Nieky Holzken was doing in that recent video Glory uploaded. To me its kind of unnecessary and time wasting. I've always been big on high repetition work. Floyd would do thousands of repetitive punches on the bag and even when he hits the pads a lot of the time its the same combos over and over again. Thai's also do loads of kicks, knees, teeps and punches for conditioning and to sharpen up. To me that's way more beneficial than any other strength and conditioning routines out there.
Single shots instead of combos:
Most Thai's tend to throw single precise shots rather than combos (most of the time) and you can also see this in their training. Floyd especially during the later part of his career also throws a lot of single shots that are very accurate.
The use of the clinch:
Obviously you cant compare clinching in Muaythai to clinching in boxing but most Thai's that transition to kickboxing don't really fight on the inside. Instead they use the clinch effectively to shut down a fighters offence. Especially aggressive fighters. A good example is comparing Petpanomrungs fight against Roosmalen to Floyds fight against Pacquiao. They were both very effective in shutting their opponents down. Clinching/tying up in kb and boxing is frowned upon but its one of those things that will always be there no matter how strict a promotion is. Its instinctive especially when a fighters in trouble and I think most of the time knowing how to use it effectively separates great fighters from good fighters.
On the back foot:
This is one of the most frustrating things casual fans bring up. That a fighter is winning because he was moving forward and the other lost because he was moving back and somehow that must mean that the fighter moving forward controls the ring which is not always true. Its not sumo wrestling. You don't win by moving forward and pushing your opponent out of the circle. There is a ring for a reason and fighters like Floyd and plenty of Thai's like to be on the back foot, counter and use the ring to its full extent. Once again I heard this a lot in the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight and both roosmalens fights against sittichai and Petpanomrung.
Point scoring:
Floyd is known in the later part of his career to win by outscoring his opponents. The stadiums are big on point scoring and most of the time Thai's win decisions instead of KO's. Its not that they can't KO fighters but its that they don't always feel the need to go for the KO especially when they are already up on the scorecards. Its not always the most glamorous but its smart and sometimes its good to play it safe.
Training:
In Thailand a lot of the training is traditional based. Its very repetitive and instinctive. You would rarely catch a Thai or Floyd doing what ever the fuck Nieky Holzken was doing in that recent video Glory uploaded. To me its kind of unnecessary and time wasting. I've always been big on high repetition work. Floyd would do thousands of repetitive punches on the bag and even when he hits the pads a lot of the time its the same combos over and over again. Thai's also do loads of kicks, knees, teeps and punches for conditioning and to sharpen up. To me that's way more beneficial than any other strength and conditioning routines out there.
