Shoulder pain while benching but not pressing

Stating that "This description is consistent with tendinopathy of the long head of the biceps tendon" is jumping to conclusions?
If you're just musing no, if you're implying that's what it is yes.
 
With what little information we have, saying that it's not necessarily (without context) more consistent with labrum, AC, various referred pain, radicular pain or supraspinuts/bursa issues then yes I'd argue it's a blanket statement. At least a premature one. I don't disagree with your reasoning, and the supraspinatus is definitely the most unlikely, but we still don't know enough of the scope to say the other diagnosis are almost certainly false.
So you think that a supraspinatus injury is definitely the most unlikely, and you also think that the symptoms are not necessarily more consistent with bicipital tendonitis than with a supraspinatus injury?
 
If you're just musing no, if you're implying that's what it is yes.
Are you unable to understand English or are you just tripping?

I wasn't "musing" and I wasn't "implying" anything. I stated that the symptoms described are consistent with bicipital tendonitis.
 
So you think that a supraspinatus injury is definitely the most unlikely, and you also think that the symptoms are not necessarily more consistent with bicipital tendonitis than with a supraspinatus injury?
Let me explain it again. We can keep digging at the mention of the supraspinatus, gracing past the other pathologies it could be besides bicipital tendinitis.

Not necessarily, as in, we don't have enough information to decide. We have so little information, that it's unreasonable to assume. Yes there is no pain during OHP (which could have been a single rep for all we know, and not enough stimuli to illicit response), therefor if we took that as enough to garner any consistency of symptoms, then it would be less likely the supraspinatus, yet what would necessitate it to be more consistent would be to have more information to make that basis on. Symptoms and stimuli are not well enough described. I pointed out an example where a patient didn't have pain during OHP, yet pain could be reproduced by repeated abduction (and hawkings, neers, so on) and US showed degeneration of the supraspinatus tendon.

Are you unable to understand English or are you just tripping?

I wasn't "musing" and I wasn't "implying" anything. I stated that the symptoms described are consistent with bicipital tendonitis.
Lol.
 
I'm going to butt in here a little bit.


Not necessarily more consistent than with other pathologies. Could be the labrum, or other anterior structures like the capsule, could be supraspinatus or referred pain from the AC joint due to the compression (or other structures referring). Could even be radicular. You'd have to have more information and do tests, eventhough the sensitivity, specificity and overall diagnostic value on most are piss poor.


The short head of the bisceps brachii inserts at the processus coracoideus, as I'm sure you know, and if it's an enthesopathy of the short head then it might as well be the pec minor that's causing the issue. The symptomatology is also different from a tendinopathy of the long head. Again, while palpating the AC or creating compression certainly would create known pain locally at the AC joint, referred pain from both the AC and other structures can be felt anteriorly near the front delt, or at various other places at the delt, or the upper part of the humerus. I agree with you that most rehabilitation is pretty cookie cutter regarding anterior glenohumeral issues though (if that's what it is).

Sorry to be brash but with giving diagnostic advice over the internet it's important to be sharp.

In the end TS only had pain once, came to Sherdog, then the pain went away. Pretty much making a mountain out of a molehill. Or so it seems.
It wasn’t pain once, I tweaked my form and it went away. Widened my grip to stop my shoulders from internally rotating and also use more of an arch and get up on my traps instead of being flat backed. Also tightened the bar path
 
It wasn’t pain once, I tweaked my form and it went away. Widened my grip to stop my shoulders from internally rotating and also use more of an arch and get up on my traps instead of being flat backed. Also tightened the bar path
Ah okay I see. Makes sense if something in the front of your shoulder was being irritated a little. Either way, good that it worked out!
 
Ah okay I see. Makes sense if something in the front of your shoulder was being irritated a little. Either way, good that it worked out!
I had a very exaggerated arc in the bar path. I know it’s supposed to be a slight arc but I was touching the bar below my sternum and pressing it to over the shoulder. All sorts of snap city was happening I’m sure. This is what I love about powerlifting, I am still learning the movements and I’ve been training for years.
 
I had a very exaggerated arc in the bar path. I know it’s supposed to be a slight arc but I was touching the bar below my sternum and pressing it to over the shoulder. All sorts of snap city was happening I’m sure. This is what I love about powerlifting, I am still learning the movements and I’ve been training for years.
Don't think you have to be too worried about snap city stuff going on lol, but yeah definitely cool that you found a way. Yep, always learning.
 
Had the same issues. Turned out to be an AC joint issue, or "weight lifter's shoulder". Whether true or not, i was told by the specialist that my body frame is not suitable for benching. I have long, monkey arms. So, basically I don't bench anymore, with the exception of weird things like landmine chest presses. Like others have said, seek a specialist to be sure.
 
so, if you can press but not bench, chances are it's more bicep than spinatus?
 
Let me explain it again. We can keep digging at the mention of the supraspinatus, gracing past the other pathologies it could be besides bicipital tendinitis.

Not necessarily, as in, we don't have enough information to decide. We have so little information, that it's unreasonable to assume. Yes there is no pain during OHP (which could have been a single rep for all we know, and not enough stimuli to illicit response), therefor if we took that as enough to garner any consistency of symptoms, then it would be less likely the supraspinatus, yet what would necessitate it to be more consistent would be to have more information to make that basis on. Symptoms and stimuli are not well enough described. I pointed out an example where a patient didn't have pain during OHP, yet pain could be reproduced by repeated abduction (and hawkings, neers, so on) and US showed degeneration of the supraspinatus tendon.


Lol.
The overhead pressing is every work set from 5x5 with 225lbs to my new PR of the 275. Allfather Rippetoe said in his bench press video that impingement is impossible while overhead pressing, which leads me to believe that’s what my issue was. Another pain free bench day, 257.5# for 5, 297.5# for 5 and 335# for 5+ (got 8.). Also a side note, the Texas power bar fucking slays the Rogue Echo bar. Best $270 I’ve ever spent.
 
The overhead pressing is every work set from 5x5 with 225lbs to my new PR of the 275. Allfather Rippetoe said in his bench press video that impingement is impossible while overhead pressing, which leads me to believe that’s what my issue was. Another pain free bench day, 257.5# for 5, 297.5# for 5 and 335# for 5+ (got 8.). Also a side note, the Texas power bar fucking slays the Rogue Echo bar. Best $270 I’ve ever spent.

also bill starr or norb schemansky said that when bench press was rarely done, rotator cuff issues were nonexistent. i am happy that you are painfree again. cheers.
 
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also bill starr or norb schemansky said that when bench press was rarely done, rotator cuff issues were nonexistent. i am happy that you are painfree again. cheers.
Thanks. I’ve always been shit at benching, I started lifting through CrossFit and dips were all that were programmed. I’ve added over 100lbs to my max bench in the last couple years, refining my technique and honing my assistance work along the way. I’ve done CF, MMA and Jiu jitsu and I would say powerlifting is the most satisfying of them all.
 
Thanks. I’ve always been shit at benching, I started lifting through CrossFit and dips were all that were programmed. I’ve added over 100lbs to my max bench in the last couple years, refining my technique and honing my assistance work along the way. I’ve done CF, MMA and Jiu jitsu and I would say powerlifting is the most satisfying of them all.

haha, you are underrating yourself hugely.
 
The shoulder is impinged at 90 degress when benching. At the bottom of the lift, move the bar closer to chest to keep the weight off the rotor cuff muscles. Try benching at 75-80 degrees.
 
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