Opinion Should they ban assault weapons?

Should they ban assault weapons?

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I don't know if it would solve the gun problem, but it would probably solve our government problem.
 
cooks1 said:
It would most assuredly be very different. Honestly we are still probably several decades and countless more massacres away from being ready for it as a society here. But when and if we are ready for it, we will be able to do it. Just like any other strong democracy.

Honestly, if people were willing to be reasonable and have a little perspective and sense, it would not be necessary. Citizens don't need weapons that shoot 30 rounds. There is a lot we could do.

The ultimate irony is that the harder we clinch our fists at bringing reasonable change, the quicker we will bring about what many will feel is unreasonable change.

A very similar thing happened with gay marriage if you will recall (personally I am fine with it). For a very long time, decades in fact, gay couples did not give a shit about actually getting married. They just wanted to be able to have the same rights as married people. Dependents on tax forms, Being included on insurance policies. Being a beneficiary of a pension or death benefit, shit like that. But we fought that tooth and nail. A million examples of this I could point to, but there was a great movie about one of them with a couple of my favorite actresses:



The rights were either not coming at all or coming far too slowly. So the LGBTG warriors had no choice but to go for the whole enchilada and got it. Suddenly the politicians that were against any rights, fearing it would eventually lead to legalizing marriage, were menstruating heavily and trying to backtrack, but it was too late for them.

In a democracy, not being willing to compromise at all will eventually lead to you losing far more than you would have ever thought possible.
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Great point, we should've given the homos civil unions when we had the chance.
 
uncommon said:
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lol..

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What about all the violence that will ensue when the military tries to disarm people?

WorldofWarcraft said:
No guns, no gun violence. How can anyone argue against that? Have the military go door to door and confiscate all firearms and ammunition.
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This irrational fear always baffles me. Cue the video of hurricane Katrina gun confiscation!

No one is going to try to take anyone’s guns, no matter who is in office. Make it more difficult to buy/sell guns? Yes, at some point, that will happen. But there will be no gun confiscation, so you can take your cold dead hand attitude and remove your finger from the trigger.
 
Whenever there is a mass shooting in the USA the debate always starts revolving about guns, but there is never a debate about the actual causes of why people are willing to do such things and why these things happen specifically in America.

The real reason why the debate about guns is forced and pushed through the media is because the Americans are too embarrassed to talk about why someone would just start shooting at innocent people for no apparent reason at all as it exposes America and reflects the reality that there is just something wrong with American national ideology and the degenerate American society as a whole.

There are a lot of countries in the world where people own a lot of guns but these things don't happen. The reason why they happen in America is because America is a degenerate capitalist society and always has been. A bunch of people of all races lumped together in an artificial state without any history and tradition and brainwashed by a materialistic and individualistic ruling ideology. A sick society. As long as there is America, there will be these sick events, no matter what you do with guns.
 
Good post. You will most likely be bashed for your ideas though. America has changed alot in the last 10 years.
 
Americans have no sense of community, no sense of brotherhood because they don't have a common racial and ethnic origin. On top of that they're fed with an individualist materialistic capitalism where you have to walk over other people to succeed and it's actually promoted as a good thing. They see each other as competitors, not as brothers. The message of the American national ideology is "we have this state this will protect you, now compete against each other to pursue happiness and the American dream". It has been this way since America was created.

Maybe things were better when there used to be more Christianity and a sense of universal Christian community and brotherhood and some sort of spirituality, but this is largely gone now too or perverted. Now it's each man for himself. This creates tensions because it's an extreme form of individualism.
 
You don't have to share a race or ethnic background to love each other or feel a sense of brotherhood.
 
hiphopnazi said:
30 round mags, I think are unnecessary, Australia did change the laws on capacity.
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Depends on the state, type of fiream and licence. There is no restriction on capacity for bolt, pump and lever guns in SA, but customs makes things difficult. Standard 30rd AR mags will run you a couple of hundred ea (although I've seen them as high as $300-400).
 
nac386 said:
You don't have to share a race or ethnic background to love each other or feel a sense of brotherhood.
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It depends.

There are only three types of bonds that can create genuine brotherhood in a nation-state.

Common religion
Race/ethnicity
Strong collectivist socialistic concept of a nation

America has nothing out of that.

I think Americans are simply raised to see each others as competitors and this creates bitterness already in young people. No wonder that they pick up guns and start shooting other people.
 
Vojislav said:
It depends.

There are only three types of bonds that can create genuine brotherhood in a nation-state.

Common religion
Race/ethnicity
Strong collectivist socialistic concept of a nation

America has nothing out of that.
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Races have warred against their own race repeatedly throughout history. Read a history book sometime.

Where are you from?
 
Vojislav said:
Americans have no sense of community, no sense of brotherhood because they don't have a common racial and ethnic origin. On top of that they're fed with an individualist materialistic capitalism where you have to walk over other people to succeed and it's actually promoted as a good thing. They see each other as competitors, not as brothers. The message of the American national ideology is "we have this state this will protect you, now compete against each other to pursue happiness and the American dream". It has been this way since America was created.

Maybe things were better when there used to be more Christianity and a sense of universal Christian community and brotherhood and some sort of spirituality, but this is largely gone now too or perverted. Now it's each man for himself. This creates tensions because it's an extreme form of individualism.
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Not sure how I feel about your "common racial and ethnic origin", but I think you do have a point when it comes to individualist materialistic capitalism.
 
WorldofWarcraft said:
No guns, no gun violence. How can anyone argue against that? Have the military go door to door and confiscate all firearms and ammunition.
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1) Posse Comitatus. The military cannot do that.
2) Military and the Constitution. Most of the military would politely decline that scenario even if ordered because they believe in gun ownership rights, the Constitution, and would not the wage war neccessary on their brothers, sisters, etc.
3) 300million guns and billions of rounds of ammo seems like a pretty big task. Especially considering nobody knows where they all are. The people who would willingly comply with any new law and hand those guns over aren't the people you should worry about.
4) I can make a new gun in a day or two.
5) LOL @ anyone who thinks that solution could work. Unfortunately there are many that do. And they aren't laughing.
 
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