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Sherdogs Russian shoe shiners VS MMA reality

JM Barrie

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I have been watching MMA for a very long time. All the way back to PRIDE, I even went cold-turkey on the UFC(couldn't stand their promo) and just watched PRIDE.

I watched Fedor in PRIDE. I was a fan. I thought of Dana as an angry man when he talked about Fedor like he wasn't great.

Slowly over the years, still before the UFC bought PRIDE, I started to question the reasons behind Fedors decision not to fight in the UFC. Before Dana White made a smiley face on Twitter when Werdum beat Fedor I had made up my mind. Perhaps Fedor was just a great showmen. Perhaps Fedors teams were great managers. Perhaps Americans viewed Russians as mysterious, because of our history, which can bode well for fighting.

I feel like ever since Fedor started in PRIDE, MMA fans have placed Russian fighters as great fighters in MMA.

Fedors aura transfers to other Russian fighters. In most cases, its all unwarranted.

The lastest fighter the Sherdog Russian shoe shiners are pegging to be great is Zabit Magomedsharipov.
They say he will be champion. They say he can beat Max Holloway and Brain Ortega today.

Why would MMA watchers say something like that?
Why would MMA watchers just let him jump the line?

It took Max Holloway an 11 fight winning streak to face a champion. The last 5 of those bouts were against:
Cub Swanson
Charles Oliveira
Jeremy Stephens
Ricardo Lamas
Anthony Pettis

What has Zabit done to gain all this praise?
He fought
Mike Santiago
Sheymon Moraes
Kyle Bochniak
Brandon Davis


The Sherdog Russian shoe shiners have talked about
Khabilov
Taisumov
Makhachev
Bagautinov
Tumenov
Krylov

Like they were hall of fame champions



Reality

Tumenov got exposed for no ground game. Got subbed by a great BJJ guy and then got subbed by a Brit. He quit the UFC.
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Krylov also showed that he can't heck it in the sub defense.
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Bagautinov is a known cheat and someone that doesnt care about cheating. He was one of the most boring flyweight fighters in the UFC.
He had 7 fights in the UFC and only beat one good fighter, John Lineker. He lost 3 fights and quit the UFC. Dude went on to get knocked out by Tyson Nam



Makhachev got his chin exposed against Jose Aldos BBJ coach.
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Again who has he beaten?
Kuntz
Wade
Lentz
Tibau
Johnson
What one of them is a ranked fighter?



Taisumov...................... did you see his fight against Des Green? This is who you shoe shiners think can be champion? He was gifted a decision against someone that was 2-2 in the UFC.
Again who has he beaten?
Bang
Bandel
Christodoulou
Patrick
Hadzovic
F. Silva
Green
What one of them is a ranked fighter?

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Khabilov was just gifted a decision win against Kajan Johnson. KAJAN JOHNSON. I cant make this up.
This guy is the most boring fighter I can think of.
He has one name to his UFC career. Jorge Masvidal. Many lost he lost the fight. FYI, Medeiros got a winning streak later on.
Of his 11 UFC wins only two of them would be ranked. He lost to one of them; Henderson.

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I am sick of the shoe shining.
 
The cold war is over, bro.
 
Wise words that will likely fall on deaf ears here. On Sherdog if you're Russian you're automatically the GOAT.
 
Putting Fedor in that crowd is a bit fucked up , he was HW champ in the deepest HW division so far in MMA & for a long fucking time , yes he put the smack down on some cans but he also fought everybody else along the way .
 
You can obviously see the talent in Zabit. I don't like it when people straight nut hug Russian fighters. I am not going to lie though, I do get surprised when I see Brazilian fighters who don't know bjj.
 
People get excited by prospects. Is normal.
Makhchaev and Zabit are legit . So is taisumov

Edit
Folks like Lando and Perry get a lot of undeserved hype too, Not russian
Some Eric Silva guy also is supposed to be some kind of beast
 
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I think the degree of hype you're suggesting for a lot of these guys is coming from your imagination.
 
isnt it more krylov is ukranian, taisumov is a chechen, tumenov is something else and the rest are dagestanis.

so zero actual "russians" so too speak. non the less theres some talent coming out of the region so im not sure your assesment is fair but it can be warranted....for the time being anyway.
 
i will say your right on one aspect. alot of those dudes who mingle with khabib arent anything special. too many decisionators.
 
If you don't think Makhachev and Zabit are solid prospects, then I don't know what to tell you. While you're out there analyzing fighters wiki pages and fight finders to look at names vs names vs names vs names, I'll be watching the fights and looking at their skills.

If you enjoy downplaying records, then have fun because your hobby will be never ending.


*Edit*

I ask the "many" people who thought Khabilov lost to masvidal to please come in here and explain themselves.
 
i do think theres a few fighters from russia who might deserve some hype but they arent fighting in the ufc.
 
I think the degree of hype you're suggesting for a lot of these guys is coming from your imagination.


Threads like this really need to quote the posters that they're responding to.
 
I think some people are scared of change. Who cares if someone else is excited for new prospects? I for one like new talent especially when they bring a style that we haven't seen.
 
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