SHERDOG MOVIE CLUB: Week 80 Discussion - Drugstore Cowboy

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Our Director


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Gus Van Sant was born in Louisville, Kentucky, the son of Betty (née Seay) and Gus Green Van Sant, Sr; Gus's father was a clothing manufacturer and traveling salesman who rapidly worked his way into middle class prosperity, holding executive marketing positions that included being president of the White Stag Manufacturing Company's Apparel Operation. As a result of his father's job, the family moved continually during Van Sant's childhood.

His paternal family is of partial Dutch origin; the name "Van Sant" is derived from the Dutch name "Van Zandt". The earliest Van Zandt arrived in the New Netherland area in the early 17th century, around what is now New York City.

Van Sant is an alumnus of Darien High School in Darien, Connecticut, and The Catlin Gabel School in Portland, Oregon. One constant in the director's early years was his interest in visual arts (namely, painting and Super-8 filmmaking); while still in school he began making semi-autobiographical shorts costing between 30 and 50 dollars. Van Sant's artistic leanings took him to the Rhode Island School of Design in 1970, where his introduction to various avant-garde directors inspired him to change his major from painting to cinema.

After spending time in Europe, Van Sant went to Los Angeles in 1976. He secured a job as a production assistant to writer/director Ken Shapiro, with whom he developed a few ideas, none of which came to fruition. In 1981, Van Sant made Alice in Hollywood, a film about a naïve young actress who goes to Hollywood and abandons her ideals. It was never released. During this period, Van Sant began to spend time observing the denizens of the more down-and-out sections of Hollywood Boulevard. He became fascinated by the existence of this marginalized section of L.A.'s population, especially in context with the more ordinary, prosperous world that surrounded them. Van Sant would repeatedly focus his work on those existing on society's fringes, making his feature film directorial debut Mala Noche.

It was made two years after Van Sant went to New York to work in an advertising agency. He saved $20,000 during his tenure there, enabling him to finance the majority of his tale of doomed love between a gay liquor store clerk and a Mexican immigrant. The film, which was taken from Portland street writer Walt Curtis' semi-autobiographical novella, featured some of the director's hallmarks, notably an unfulfilled romanticism, a dry sense of the absurd, and the refusal to treat homosexuality as something deserving of judgment. Unlike many gay filmmakers, Van Sant—who had long been openly gay—declined to use same-sex relationships as fodder for overtly political statements, although such relationships would frequently appear in his films.

Shot in black-and-white, the film earned Van Sant almost overnight acclaim on the festival circuit, with the Los Angeles Times naming it the year's Best Independent Film. The film's success attracted Hollywood interest, and Van Sant was briefly courted by Universal; the courtship ended after Van Sant pitched a series of project ideas (including what would later become Drugstore Cowboy and My Own Private Idaho) that the studio declined to take interest in.

Van Sant moved back to Portland, Oregon, where he set up house and began giving life to the ideas rejected by Universal. He directed Drugstore Cowboy about four drug addicts robbing pharmacies to support their habit. The film met with great critical success and revived the career of Matt Dillon.

Drugstore Cowboy's exploration of the lives of those living on society's outer fringes, as well as its Portland setting, were mirrored in Van Sant's next effort, the similarly acclaimed My Own Private Idaho (1991). Only with the success of Cowboy was Van Sant now given license to make Idaho (a film he had originally pitched but was knocked back several times as the script was deemed 'too risky' by studios). Now New Line Cinema had given Van Sant the green light, he was on a mission to get the Idaho script to his first choices for his two young leads. After months of struggle with agents and managers over the content of the script, Van Sant finally secured River Phoenix and Keanu Reeves in the roles of Mike Waters and Scott Favor. Centering around the dealings of two male hustlers (played by Phoenix and Reeves), the film was a compelling examination of unrequited love, alienation, and the concept of family (a concept Van Sant repeatedly explores in his films). The film won him an Independent Spirit Award for his screenplay (he had won the same award for his Drugstore Cowboy screenplay), as well as greater prestige. The film also gained River Phoenix best actor honors at the Venice Film Festival among others. In addition, it helped Reeves—previously best known for his work in the Bill and Ted movies—to get the critical respect that had previously eluded him.

Van Sant's next film, a 1993 adaptation of Tom Robbins' Even Cowgirls Get the Blues, was an excessive flop, both commercially and critically. Featuring an unusually large budget (for Van Sant, at least) of $8.5 million and a large, eclectic cast including Uma Thurman, John Hurt, Keanu Reeves and a newcomer in the form of River Phoenix's younger sister Rain (at Phoenix's suggestion), the film was worked and then reworked, but the finished product nonetheless resulted in something approaching a significant disaster.

Van Sant's 1995 film To Die For helped to restore his luster. An adaptation of Joyce Maynard's novel, the black comedy starred Nicole Kidman as a murderously ambitious weather girl; it also stars Matt Dillon as her hapless husband and, the third Phoenix sibling in as many projects, Joaquin Phoenix, as her equally hapless lover (River had died from a drug overdose a year and half earlier). It was Van Sant's first effort for a major studio (Columbia), and its success paved the way for further projects of the director's choosing. The same year, he served as executive producer for Larry Clark's Kids; it was a fitting assignment, due to both the film's subject matter and the fact that Clark's photographs of junkies had served as reference points for Van Sant's Drugstore Cowboy.

In 1997, Van Sant gained mainstream acceptance thanks to Good Will Hunting, starring and written by Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. The film—about a troubled, blue-collar mathematical genius—was a huge critical and commercial success. It was nominated for nine Academy Awards, including Best Director for Van Sant. It also won two, including Best Screenplay for Damon and Affleck, and Best Supporting Actor Oscar for Robin Williams, who, in his acceptance speech, referred to Van Sant as "the mellowest man in Hollywood." Van Sant, Damon and Affleck parodied themselves and the film's success in Kevin Smith's Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

The success of Good Will Hunting afforded Van Sant the opportunity to remake the Alfred Hitchcock classic Psycho. As opposed to reinterpreting the 1960 film, Van Sant opted to recreate the film shot-for-shot, in color, with a cast of young Hollywood A-listers. His decision was met with equal parts curiosity, skepticism, and derision from industry insiders and outsiders alike, and the finished result met with a similar reception. It starred Anne Heche, Vince Vaughn and Julianne Moore, and met with a negative critical reception and did poorly at the box office.

In 2000, Van Sant directed Finding Forrester, about a high-school student (Rob Brown) from the Bronx unlikely becoming a friend of a crusty, reclusive author (Sean Connery). Critical response was generally positive.

In addition to directing, he devoted considerable energy to releasing two albums and publishing a novel, Pink, which was a thinly veiled exploration of his grief over River Phoenix's death.

Van Sant traveled to the deserts of Argentina, Utah, and Death Valley for 2002's Gerry, a loosely devised, largely improvised feature in which stars Matt Damon and Casey Affleck—both playing characters named Gerry—wander through the desert, discussing Wheel of Fortune, video games, and nothing in particular. The film premiered at the Sundance Film Festival.

It took Gerry over a year to make it to theaters, in which time Van Sant began production on his next film, Elephant. Approached by HBO and producer Diane Keaton to craft a fictional film based on the 1999 Columbine High School massacre, the director chose to shoot in his hometown of Portland, employing dozens of untrained, teen actors. As well as melding improvisational long takes like those in Gerry with Harris Savides' fluid camerawork, the film was also influenced by Alan Clarke's 1989 film of the same name (see Elephant). The finished film provoked strong reactions from audiences at the 2003 Cannes Film Festival. At the Cannes festival, the jury awarded Elephant with their top prize, the Palme d'Or, and Van Sant with his first Best Director statue from the festival. The success of Elephant led Van Sant to show the U.S. premiere of Elephant as a fundraiser for Outside In, an organization working to help youth living on the streets of Portland, Oregon.

In 2005, Van Sant released Last Days, the final component of what he refers to as his "Death Trilogy," (the other parts being Gerry and Elephant). It is a fictionalized account of what happened to Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain in the days leading up to his death. In 2006, Van Sant began work on Paranoid Park based on the book by Blake Nelson, about a skateboarding teenager who accidentally causes someone's death. The film was released in Europe in February 2008. He also directed the "Le Marais" segment of the omnibus film Paris, je t'aime.

Released in 2008, Van Sant's Milk is a biopic of openly gay San Francisco politician Harvey Milk, who was assassinated in 1978 and is played by Sean Penn in the movie. The film received eight Oscar nominations at the 81st Academy Awards, including Best Picture, winning two for Best Actor in a Leading Role for Penn and Best Original Screenplay for writer Dustin Lance Black. Van Sant was nominated for Best Director. Van Sant later stated that his experience with Sean Penn on the film was "amazing".

His 2011 project Restless was screened in the Un Certain Regard section at the 2011 Cannes Film Festival, and starred Mia Wasikowska and Henry Hopper, the son of actor Dennis Hopper.

Van Sant's film, Promised Land, was released on December 28, 2012. The film stars Frances McDormand, Matt Damon, and John Krasinski—the latter two co-wrote the screenplay based on a story by Dave Eggers. Filmed in April 2012, the production company, Focus Features, selected the release date so that the film is eligible to qualify for awards consideration.

Following Promised Land, Van Sant directed a film entitled Sea of Trees, which starred Matthew McConaughey and Ken Watanabe. The film tells the story of a man who travels to the infamous suicide forest in Japan to kill himself, only to encounter another man wishing to kill himself as well, with whom he then embarks on a "spiritual journey." The film was selected to compete for the Palme d'Or at the 2015 Cannes Film Festival but was met with harsh critical reception at the Cannes, being booed and laughed at.

In December 2016, it was announced Van Sant would direct Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far on Foot, a biopic about cartoonist John Callahan, starring Joaquin Phoenix, Rooney Mara, Jonah Hill, Jack Black and Mark Webber. Principal photography began in March 2017.



Our Star


Matt Dillon: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000369


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Film Overview and YouTube Videos


Premise: A pharmacy-robbing dope fiend and his crew pop pills and evade the law.

Budget: $2.5 million
Box Office: $4.7 million









Trivia
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* Matt Dillon cited this film as his personal favorite, of all the films he has done.

* This film was based on the writings of James Fogle, who was a real-life criminal and drug addict who robbed drugstores.

* Around the thirty-minute mark, Bob accidentally smashes the lamp behind him while swinging his golf club. This was not actually scripted; it was a real accident by Matt Dillon.

* Rx Bandits took their name from this film. They were originally called the Pharmaceutical Bandits but changed their name, because people were constantly misspelling pharmaceutical on flyers and posters.Rx Bandits took their name from this film. They were originally called the Pharmaceutical Bandits but changed their name, because people were constantly misspelling pharmaceutical on flyers and posters.



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Love this movie. It’s a great portrayal of drug culture that’s not too graphic and is presented through a somewhat comedic lens. It gives a great sense of the paranoia, eagerness to score, disreputable acquaintances, problems with the cops, distrust from the family, the dangers of overdose, and just how creative you need to be to keep drugs hidden. Little things are done right like David picking up the speck of crank Bob drops on the table.

Here's some random thoughts as the movie unfolded.
  • Them laughing at the anti-drug commercial is just perfect.
  • This is supposed to be based on a true story as I recall (and I skipped the OP :cool:). I’m wondering if there’s any to the dog story. Could be a vehicle inserted by Van Zant to highlight Bob’s insecurities, inability to form relationships, and introduce his superstitions. Wonder if there really was a hat on the bed that preceded Nadine’s death. Wonder if the dog is somehow a metaphor for Nadine.
  • After watching Gentry and complany toss their place, it really makes the set-up scene where the cop gets shot a joy. Most hilarious part of the movie. The cops thinking they’re getting it all figured out. The protagonists' viewing of the plan coming to fruition. Showtime!


Other shit that cracked me up.
  • Nadine dumping the drugs all over the inside the truck making Bob’s head explode.
  • Bob cracking the orderly guy with the crowbar and the way he says ouch.
  • A Sheriff's convention at the hotel with Nadine's dead body.
  • Dropping her body from the attic.


Burroughs is just amazing. Fitting that he’s in it and is so compelling. Love that voice. Love the way he speaks. Nobody knows more about injecting drugs than Burroughs did.

Funny how rehab group amounted to telling war stories.

Diane showing up to tempt Bob attests to how quitting drugs costs relationships.

And of course, no good deed goes unpunished (i.e. trying to get clean but getting shot by a former "associate"). Or more like karma’s a bitch. But Bob lives, so karma’s only so vindictive. :)


Good lines:
  • You can’t run and play all your life. (Bob's mom to Bob & Diane) (Later in the grave digging scene Bob looks at his hands and seems to wonder if he’s built for work, after planning to clean up. I think this is actually the most important line in the film.)
  • She left us with an OD’d stiff, which is paramount to a murder beef in this state. (Bob to Rick)
  • I like drugs. I like the whole lifestyle. It just didn’t payoff. (Bob to clinic lady)
  • Are you holding? (Tom to Bob)
  • Sometimes I think some junkie nurse may be stepping on my medication. (Tom to Bob)
  • I bet he shot a million bucks in his arm. (Bob about Tom)
  • Narcotics have been systematically scapegoated and demonized. (Tom to Bob)
  • There’s nothing more life-affirming than getting the shit kicked out of you. (Bob narration)
  • So the hat shot you, right Bob? (Gentry to Bob)
  • The chickenshit cops were giving me an escort to the fattest pharmacy in town. (Bob narration)
 
I love this movie, it was an introduction to pharmaceuticals and the fun that can be had with them. Sure the film takes some artistic licenses such as the cop being shot by the other officer, but overall its a fantastic narrative about how the life of a junkie evolves. First its all fun, good times, having fun, copping drugs, hiding them from loved ones, but then it eventually all begins to unravel. I have experienced this in my own life and luckily am still married with great kids. Also I had friends similar to Bobs and most of them died, one committed suicide, another got fucked up on pills and booze and fell off of a cliff to his death near the ocean. Somehow I made it though, no real reason, I shouldnt have.

Its also a movie about friendship, and the shared group interest of obtaining and hiding drugs.
 
I thought this was a solid film. I had no idea it was directed by Gus Van Sant until I saw his name in the opening credits.

One thing I noticed is that while the story is told in three-acts, the film does not adhere to the three-act structure. We have:

- The time living in town
- The time on the road
- The time when our protagonist returns to town

There's a clear arc there for Matt Dillon's character, but it almost feels like three compartmentalized eras, rather than one continuous story.

Personally, I felt that the film was most enjoyable before they hit the road. Once they hit the road, the tone and feel of the movie changes, and things got unexpectedly dark when they find Heather Graham lying dead and looking like a ghost. Up to that point, it felt somewhat light--even somewhat comedic--but once she dies and they're shoving her body up into a crawl space, it kind of became a different movie.

Another thing I noted was that the time period was hard to lock down. Since the movie was made in 1989, I went into it assuming the story took place in the 80s. Then after a while of looking at the cars and cop uniforms and the inside of that hospital in Act II, I started to think that it's supposed to be the 1950s. But looking at the plot summary on Wikipedia, I now see that it's supposed to be 1971.

As someone who has had family and friends who were drug addicts, I can attest to the fact that while it may be a fun lifestyle for a while, it rarely ends up anywhere good. It's basically just a slow (sometimes not-so-slow) downward trajectory until you hit the proverbial rock bottom. Your whole life becomes focus on narcotics: a constant cycle of getting them and doing them, rinse and repeat. It's really strange when you think about it.

I was surprised to see James Remar in here. It was almost like he hadn't fully morphed into "James Remar" yet. He didn't quite look like himself and he didn't quite sound like himself . . . but he was there enough that you go, "Wait, is that James Remar?" And indeed it is.

I also thought the priest was an interesting character. A narcotics-loving man of the cloth. Well that was unexpected.

The one moment in the movie that I didn't really buy though--that felt false to me--was where he gets shot at the end. You're telling me those lightweight street punk types had the balls to kill someone? Eh, I don't buy it. Not only did the movie not really establish them as guys who had it in them to do that kind of thing, but the necessary animosity between them and MD's character had not been established either. I guess you could respond with, "But they were on drugs! Drugs make you do crazy shit!" But yeah . . . nah.

I feel like I'm rambling, so I'll just wrap this up by saying that I think this was a good, interesting film that went in some unexpected places and that feature some good performances. I doubt, however, that it will be a film that I'll ever feel compelled to watch again.
 
The one moment in the movie that I didn't really buy though--that felt false to me--was where he gets shot at the end. You're telling me those lightweight street punk types had the balls to kill someone? Eh, I don't buy it. Not only did the movie not really establish them as guys who had it in them to do that kind of thing, but the necessary animosity between them and MD's character had not been established either. I guess you could respond with, "But they were on drugs! Drugs make you do crazy shit!" But yeah . . . nah.


David did it on his own, judging by the other guy's reaction. David also seemed unsure after he pulled the trigger. So yeah, it was a step up for those dudes but not hard to believe when you consider Bob's history with David and how he'd just punked him in the street in front of a guy David was trying to intimidate. Not having a lot of balls would coincide with them running off after one shot and not making sure Bob was dead.
 
This really is a good movie about the junkie lifestyle. While I didn't really take things to those extremes, films like this hit close to home.

I should revisit it soon, but it's one I can only do so often due to ^^^. I was pretty stoked when I saw the thread. I couldn't wait to start reading some of your analysis.
 
Love this movie. It’s a great portrayal of drug culture that’s not too graphic and is presented through a somewhat comedic lens. It gives a great sense of the paranoia, eagerness to score, disreputable acquaintances, problems with the cops, distrust from the family, the dangers of overdose, and just how creative you need to be to keep drugs hidden. Little things are done right like David picking up the speck of crank Bob drops on the table.

It did feel real and authentic to me. It made me wonder if GVS has personal experience with this lifestyle or if there was some kind of technical consultant on the project to help him out.

After watching Gentry and complany toss their place, it really makes the set-up scene where the cop gets shot a joy. Most hilarious part of the movie. The cops thinking they’re getting it all figured out. The protagonists' viewing of the plan coming to fruition. Showtime!

Many years ago I had a family member get their house searched for nothing more than suspicion of weed possession. They fucked the place up.

It really is strange to me that cops can legally do that. What if they don't find anything? Are they then liable for the damages?

(Later in the grave digging scene Bob looks at his hands and seems to wonder if he’s built for work, after planning to clean up.

Is that why he looked at his hands? I couldn't figure out what that was all about.
 
David did it on his own, judging by the other guy's reaction. David also seemed unsure after he pulled the trigger. So yeah, it was a step up for those dudes but not hard to believe when you consider Bob's history with David and how he'd just punked him in the street in front of a guy David was trying to intimidate. Not having a lot of balls would coincide with them running off after one shot and not making sure Bob was dead.

It was the very definition of:

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And like I said, it just felt false to me.

There's a big difference between slapping a kid around and executing somebody. It would be like if I got into some minor argument with a neighbor that lead to a shoving match and then the next time I saw him I killed him. Usually there's more of a build-up to such drastic action.
 
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It was the very definition of:

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And like I said, it just felt false to me.

There's a big difference between slapping a kid around and executing somebody. It would be like if I got into some minor argument that lead to a shoving match and then the next time I saw him I killed him. Usually there's more of a build-up to such drastic action.
Ya I see your point but have you ever been around mentally ill drug addicted people (pretty much homeless)? They often act out of impulse with little concern for consequences. Im pretty sure the kid had mental problems as well as being a crank head.
 
Ya I see your point but have you ever been around mentally ill drug addicted people (pretty much homeless)? They often act out of impulse with little concern for consequences. Im pretty sure the kid had mental problems as well as being a crank head.

Well, it's like you said in my post, you can use the "but he was on drugs!" response, and okay, sure. And maybe he was mentally ill as well.

I'm just saying that it to me it felt like a musician playing a familiar song and then they play the wrong chord. It stands out and you cock your head and go, "That didn't sound right."
 
It did feel real and authentic to me. It made me wonder if GVS has personal experience with this lifestyle or if there was some kind of technical consultant on the project to help him out.



Many years ago I had a family member get their house searched for nothing more than suspicion of weed possession. They fucked the place up.

It really is strange to me that cops can legally do that. What if they don't find anything? Are they then liable for the damages?



Is that why he looked at his hands? I couldn't figure out what that was all about.


Being a gay dude from way back I'm sure Gus has plenty of counter-culture experience. My Own Private Idaho was about teenaged male escorts. Great film by they way.

Cops liable for damages? Hahahaha.

Yeah, I think that whole scene was Bob reacquainting himself with manual labor and pondering his future.



It was the very definition of:

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And like I said, it just felt false to me.

There's a big difference between slapping a kid around and executing somebody. It would be like if I got into some minor argument that lead to a shoving match and then the next time I saw him I killed him. Usually there's more of a build-up to such drastic action.


Ok. All I can add is that David wasn't really a central character so the entirety of his development being on-screen isn't important. But they did show a progression of him escalating as a (dumb) criminal. He robbed Bob for not only drugs, but for revenge over humiliating him. He shot him for that same reason plus the frustration of Bob not relinquishing his stash. Who knows what David was on, so drug use factors into his behavior. If you don't think they set the character up as having it in him to pull the trigger I'm not going to say you're wrong. But Gus did plenty enough for me.
 
The movie was great. 8.5/10.

I liked the textural feeling of every scene, and the sort of documentary style delivery. It wasn't too preachy or too glamorous. I thought it used humor effectively without straying far from the hopeless, dead end feeling of living for the next fix. And the poor crew never seemed to be able to just enjoy the drugs they stole, something always interrupted the good time.

Bob struggling with the processing of thought into speech and coordinating it with his face was near perfect. Like someone erected a maze around his brain so every thought had a chance to get lost on the way out. A good portrayal of a drug addled mind, and yet he was the genius of the group. Matt was born to play that role.

Kelly Lynch was smoking hot and I thought she gave almost as good a performance as Matt. In the dog story scene her facial expressions were priceless.

Some of the more memorable lines:

  • Most people don't know how they're gonna feel from one moment to the next. But a dope fiend has a pretty good idea. All you gotta do is look at the labels on the little bottles.
  • Well, to begin with, nobody, and I mean nobody, can talk a junkie out of using. You can talk to 'em for years but sooner or later they're gonna get ahold of something. Maybe it's not dope. Maybe it's booze, maybe it's glue, maybe it's gasoline. Maybe it's a gunshot to the head. But something. Something to relieve the pressures of their everyday life, like having to tie their shoes.
  • Jesus, Bob, you never told us anything about not mentioning dogs.
  • Why do they call it Josephine? I dunno, the guy who rented it to me's name is Dale. Maybe Josephine sounds better.
  • Sometimes bad luck can be good luck.
  • A sheriff's convention no less. Why couldn't it have been a tupperware convention?
 
I thought it used humor effectively without straying far from the hopeless, dead end feeling of living for the next fix.

Yeah, I felt this way too. If the movie had just been this long slog through depression and hopelessness I doubt I would've enjoyed it at all.

If you want to see that movie, it does exist. @FierceRedBelt had me watch it a few months ago.


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Kelly Lynch was smoking hot and I thought she gave almost as good a performance as Matt.

She looked good, but I thought Heather Graham stole the show in the looks department.

Some of the more memorable lines:

  • Most people don't know how they're gonna feel from one moment to the next. But a dope fiend has a pretty good idea. All you gotta do is look at the labels on the little bottles.
  • Well, to begin with, nobody, and I mean nobody, can talk a junkie out of using. You can talk to 'em for years but sooner or later they're gonna get ahold of something. Maybe it's not dope. Maybe it's booze, maybe it's glue, maybe it's gasoline. Maybe it's a gunshot to the head. But something. Something to relieve the pressures of their everyday life, like having to tie their shoes.
  • Jesus, Bob, you never told us anything about not mentioning dogs.
  • Why do they call it Josephine? I dunno, the guy who rented it to me's name is Dale. Maybe Josephine sounds better.
  • Sometimes bad luck can be good luck.
  • A sheriff's convention no less. Why couldn't it have been a tupperware convention?

LOL. This is fucking hilarious.

Never in the history of the Club has anyone listed out memorable lines line this, and you and @Cubo de Sangre have done it within hours of each other.

Wait. . . You're not his alt account are you?
 
Yeah, I felt this way too. If the movie had just been this long slog through depression and hopelessness I doubt I would've enjoyed it at all.

If you want to see that movie, it does exist. @FierceRedBelt had me watch it a few months ago.


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She looked good, but I thought Heather Graham stole the show in the looks department.

Oh wow, never heard of it, but The Panic In Needle Park looks too depressing for me.

I've always had a thing for Kelly Lynch, but I would gladly disappoint Heather repeatedly as well. :D

LOL. This is fucking hilarious.

Never in the history of the Club has anyone listed out memorable lines line this, and you and @Cubo de Sangre have done it within hours of each other.

Wait. . . You're not his alt account are you?
Haha, no! He's smarter than me and lives in paradise. I bet I can drink him under the table, though.

I didn't read anyone's review until I wrote mine out, so I didn't see the quotes. So even more amazing that we didn't use any of the same ones.

When it comes to movies, I am addicted to great, quotable lines. Like, if you have a conversation with me for more than a few minutes in real life, there's about a 99% chance I'll use a movie quote. Sad I know.
 
Yeah, I felt this way too. If the movie had just been this long slog through depression and hopelessness I doubt I would've enjoyed it at all.

If you want to see that movie, it does exist. @FierceRedBelt had me watch it a few months ago.

I'm my defense I still think that's a really good movie.
 
Haha, no! He's smarter than me and lives in paradise. I bet I can drink him under the table, though.

I didn't read anyone's review until I wrote mine out, so I didn't see the quotes. So even more amazing that we didn't use any of the same ones.

When it comes to movies, I am addicted to great, quotable lines. Like, if you have a conversation with me for more than a few minutes in real life, there's about a 99% chance I'll use a movie quote. Sad I know.

First off, thanks for being at least half right! I do live in paradise. :)

Secondly, I love quotable lines. In fact, had I chosen Martin Tupper as a screen name that would have been totally appropriate.

All that aside, I'd take your bet. @nostradumbass can attest to my imbibing skills. Seriously, you're gonna need a bigger boat. :cool:
 
First off, thanks for being at least half right! I do live in paradise. :)

Secondly, I love quotable lines. In fact, had I chosen Martin Tupper as a screen name that would have been totally appropriate.

All that aside, I'd take your bet. @nostradumbass can attest to my imbibing skills. Seriously, you're gonna need a bigger boat. :cool:
Tip of the hat for a Tupper reference.

I'll take you both on, buddeh. The best part about a drinking contest is everybody wins.
 
Tip of the hat for a Tupper reference.

I'll take you both on, buddeh. The best part about a drinking contest is everybody wins.


Even more impressed that you got it.


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You can take us both on and here's how it'll go for you. @nostradumbass will beat your ass with some slick Muay Thai and I'll drink more than you. You'll lose on both fronts. But if you put up a good fight I'll still respect you.


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