It's pretty obvious that everyone is on PEDs. People who complain about PEDs on the internet are either retarded or paid trolls.
He's been cleared by USADA twice now. He's proven to be innocent. Only irrational haters still wrongfully accuse him of PED usage.
Yeah, Cormier and the others from UFC's roster are the ones that never used anything...
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Notes for the thread:
Please no posts of the below types, as this is not what the thread about and just about any time this topic gets brought up I see a ton of unrelated posts such as:
1.)Who cares/I think everyone takes steroids.
2.)It doesn't matter to me, it's not why he won, he's the GOAT, etc
Just want to figure out what's going through your brain if so. How do you explain the multiple failed tests and the HUGE amount of suspicious circumstantial evidence surrounding him. Such as, but certainly not limited to:
-He had highly suspicious testosterone results his whole career
-He got a reduced sentence by snitching on steroid users/sellers... how did he know who these people were?
-His Brother was suspended from the NFL for PEDs - actually failed the same month as Jon!
-He had Teammates such as Frank Mir, who failed for the exact same Steroid
-His first failed defense offered VERY suspicious defense:
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/11...ck-pills-also-bought-clomiphene-usada-ped-ban
-He second failure defense... nothing.
-There were rumors of Jones hiding under the ring from USADA for years, prior to his failed tests
-The fact that Jones has proven to be a liar, a fuckup, and an excuse maker who blames everyone but himself and is on his 7th(8th?) redemption tour at this point.
etc etc etc
Okay we can't ever know for sure... but holy shit if there's ever been a more obvious guilty dude that some people still defend, I've never seen it.
Notes for the thread:
Please no posts of the below types, as this is not what the thread about and just about any time this topic gets brought up I see a ton of unrelated posts such as:
1.)Who cares/I think everyone takes steroids.
2.)It doesn't matter to me, it's not why he won, he's the GOAT, etc
It's fine if you think either of the above - but this thread is ONLY to explore how the hell anyone can believe Jon Jones at this point.
The ONLY response I've ever seen to this is people repeating the WME/Jeff Novitzky talking point about it not making sense that Jon passed tests before and after the failure - I believe it was pointed out immediately that there were very obvious possible explanations for this including:
1.)The failure test was a urine test, the test he passed was a blood test which does not look for turinabol
“The prohibited anabolic steroid turinabol is only tested for in urine screens and not in blood tests”
2.)Jon was likely micro dosing
3.)Jon's failed test occurred on weigh day, when his body was drained of water - making the substances more likely to be detected
he only ever failed two tests for banned substance - one was for (not a steroid) and the second was for trace amounts of an oral steroid.
nobody is denying that jones got flagged for that
but jones never took steroids knowingly and USADA has cleared him of that
all the 'evidence' you present is highly contestable: testimony from a liar and felon chael sonnen about him hiding under an octagon, you really believe that? lol
and you're also drawing conclusions based on what other people have done, which is fallacious. if your mom murders are you all of a sudden a murder? no, so why does it matter what his brothers and some guy he trained with did?
jon goat jones innocent
He's been cleared by USADA twice now. He's proven to be innocent. Only irrational haters still wrongfully accuse him of PED usage.
Jon is innocent.
TLDR... I’ll try to come back to this thread later to read all of that but I just wanted to say off the bat that I honestly believe he is innocent.
The first time, it was proven that it was from the pills. I don’t see where the argument is there.
The second time, I believe he was either set up or he once again took sonething that was contaminated. I know you will say I am naive but I don’t think it’s really that far fetched.
I ask this of you TS. Go back and watch Jon’s post fight reaction in the octagon when he KOd DC. Tell me, does that not look like a man redeemed? Does that look like someone who cheated to you? That man looked like someone who in their heart truly believed that they had overcome their obstacles and earned their keep, not stolen it.
Both times the amount found in his system was so insignificant that it doesn’t make sense.
classic jon is a perfect person and a saint of a man jones army member
guess you don't know estrogen blocker should never be in a mans body cause you know men aren't trying to have have chirlden. it a fact estrogen blockers are what people take when coming off steroid cycles
next time you speed tell thecop it was just a trace amount over and see if that works.
Okay here we go - finally. Hopefully this isn't a troll post. So the above is FALSE. USADA was going to give Jones 4 YEARS, before he snitched. They did not clear him in any sense. He received a greatly reduced sentence by snitching - full details below. So now that you know this... are you going to change your opinion, or keep repeating the delusional claims defending Jones?
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2018/9/19/17881418/jon-jones-reduced-ban-usada-snitching-clause-ufc-news
Former UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones was initially facing a 48-month suspension due to his positive test for turinabol, but that was reduced to just 18 months following arbitration. Three months of that reduction were due to a small reduction in Jones’ degree of fault, and the arbitrator believing he did not deliberately intend to cheat, but thirty months were due to the “snitching” clause in the UFC’s anti-doping program.
— Warren BuffettWhat the human being is best at doing is interpreting all new information so that their prior conclusions remain intact.
— Lee Ross and Craig AndersonBeliefs can survive potent logical or empirical challenges. They can survive and even be bolstered by evidence that most uncommitted observers would agree logically demands some weakening of such beliefs. They can even survive the destruction of their original evidential bases.
prove itbut jones never took steroids knowingly
prove it
(i know youre a troll, but i just needed to say that)