Serious question about shoulder surgery

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  1. TrainAllDay Brown Belt

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    Just found out I have a pretty badly torn labrum.

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    Apparently I've had it for years now and according to the doctors I have only made it worse because I have continued training and aggravating it causing the tear to grow

    Has anyone had surgery for a torn labrum and how did their shoulder feel after recovery? (training wise)

    Doc said my shoulder might not ever feel the same but surgery will save me from terrible arthritis once im older.
     
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  2. ctrlaltdelete Purple Belt

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    I got that horrible clicking going on in my shoulder when I do overhead movements. Is that how you found out about yours?

    Not sure about post surgery. I know that fighters and pro athletes get back in the ring and the field after multiple surgeries. if they can compete again at the top of their game - you can surely return to practice.
     
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  3. TrainAllDay Brown Belt

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    Thats good to hear. I heard it can end a pitchers career in baseball, good thing I dont play baseball lol

    No my shoulder popped in and out a few times (as fast as you can snap your fingers) and also the instability was getting worse. So after hurting it really badly a week ago (trying to play sand volleyball and reaching over and behind my head for a ball) I decided to FINALLY get and MRI.
     
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  4. Ryyonvin Orange Belt

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    Hey @TrainAllDay - I had labrum surgery on my right shoulder in October of 2014. I was told to lay off of it for 3 months and then do physical therapy for 3 months, and after that I could return to normal activities. My normal activites were Muay thai and functional training (like crossfit) so maybe the 6 month time frame was not realistic.

    Looking back I will say that I jumped back into things way too soon. I did not take the physical therapy as seriously as I should have. I did the mandatory 2 days a week at the rehab center but was not consistent with doing the "at home" routine they wanted you to do everyday.

    Because of this, my recovery took closer to a year before I felt comfortable with everything and closer to 2 years before I felt like I could throw my right hook like nothing had happened.

    One thing I have noticed and I'm not sure if this is related, but I am very prone to muscle knots on the right side underneath my shoulder blade around the rhomboid muscle. This will cause pain in the shoulder when trying to lift your arm. This never happened prior to the surgery but is something I deal with everyday. I get a 30 minute massage on a weekly basis and this greatly helps with managing the pain. My best guess is that I tried to do things too fast while my shoulder wasnt ready and overloaded my rhomboid which has caused this issues. I'm no doctor though so take that as you will.

    My advice to you, would be as patient and as diligent as you can with the recovery process and don't be an idiot like me who thinks because I was young (25 at the time) I would just heal regardless. Also stay away from heavy overhead presses and negative movements if you lift weights, they're pretty terrible for your labrum.

    Hope this was helpful, let me know if you have any other questions about it.
     
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  5. TrainAllDay Brown Belt

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    Very helpful. I really appreciate it bud. Been nervous ever since he said I needed surgery.
     
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  6. AusTosh White Belt

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    Hey man, have you thought about peppies? Avoid surgery if u can man, use it as last resort. I mean depends on age i guess too, how old are you?

    Pm me if you want more info. I avoided a shoulder surgery after hurting it bad in a tournament. Cldnt even lift it up next day and was my first time seeing a massive bruising around my shoulder scalp area
     
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    The answer is - it depends. Go and get the best diagnosis you can to see what the full extent of the damage is. The MRI you already got is worth gold, try and see a specialist who has worked with martial artists.

    I've had many injuries I've healed without surgery, literally from head to toe, torn ligaments, broken bones, bruised ego, damaged tendons, the lot!

    Then I've had my shoulder dislocation from 2010. 7 years of hell. Each year I'd train back up and it would re-injure. A combination of taking shit advice from myself and others "you wont need surgery", oh how sure everybody was, and poor diagnosis post injury that basically showed my arm was back in the socket, but missed the extent of the damage to the labrum, rotator cuff, missing bone from the humeral head, and more ligament damage lol.

    I had surgery last year in May, after redislocating it in April. It took a lot longer to recover from surgery, than "just" an injury, but it's been worth it. I have my arm and my life back.

    I was also advised around 6 months to return to regular activities, but expect 12 months for martial arts. July this year I was also able to pickup barbell training completely comfortably, it took until then to get the flexibility to high bar squat, and a few more weeks / month to get into low bar squat.
     
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  8. TrainAllDay Brown Belt

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    Thanks for the info ill PM you soon im curious
     
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    Awesome information. Very helpful and reassuring. the original specialist I saw said it was pretty bad but could be worse. Also, I know a really good sports doc. down in SA that I met back when I broke my collar bone back in the day he might be someone I could talk to.

    Looks like 2018 is going to be almost all recovery for me if I want to do it right... this sucks.
     
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  10. shincheckin Green Belt

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    you will be fine!

    I had labrum surgery years ago. My shoulder is 100% as if it never happened. I still compete.

    Take your physical therapy and rehab very serious. Do not rush back into training or you will re-injure it. Make sure to do all of your stretching properly or you will not get your full ROM back! I was coaching at a gym at the time, so it was easy for me. Basically replace your training with your shoulder training.

    I made a video for conditioning the shoulder for just this. Its a great exercise for shoulder conditioning in general, or if you shoulder has been injured. However its very intense, dont confuse this with your pt/rehab. Once your shoulder is ok to train again, do this exercise to keep them strong!



    @exclamatio man we were just having this conversation!
     
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  11. TrainAllDay Brown Belt

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    Appreciate the reassurance mate, def. going to take the rehab srsly!

    I just wish I had gotten the MRI and taken it srsly sooner, im pretty sure the injury ocurred in 2012
     
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  12. shincheckin Green Belt

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    if your in the US, health insurance goal is to do nothing or as little as possible to save money. They try to pass of an x-ray as "your ok" as the general public isnt knowledgeable enough to demand an MRI. I trained with mine torn for 1 year prior to getting the MRI and moving fwd with surgery etc.
     
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  13. TrainAllDay Brown Belt

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    Ya pretty annoying to think ive made it much worse than the original injury.
     
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  14. CFGroup Green Belt

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    That!

    Replace your training with your PT post op!

    I'm transitioning away from my PT back to a medium intensity regiment. It's 3 and a half hours on double days, and actually is a kick ass workout!

    Really research your physician for surgery, I still can't believe how close I came to never doing high impact training again!
     
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  15. shincheckin Green Belt

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    once fully healed, avoid super crazy impact on your shoulder, elbowing the bag is probalby not a good idea. even once your 100 again.
     
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