Scaring away the new guys (kinda long)

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  1. jr jr

    jr jr Purple Belt

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    We use to have a guy with a striking background. He would always mumble "if i could just punch" when sparring. His takedowns and takedown defense was terrible. At one point I stopped while we were rolling and said "if you could strike I could strike too" from then on when I got dominant position I would pull my arm back and balled my fist like I was going to punch him. He stopped mumbling it and I never stopped pulling my arm back and balling my hand. He now lives in asia and still works out. I like the kid but if he comes back to town I will be balling my fist again....
     
  2. cheachea

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    You must be at least this tall to get on the ride.
     
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  4. maximus__

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    Roll how the white belts roll. If they spaz tell them to chill and smash them until they gas. If someone rolls cruise with me I cruise with them.

    New guy has started to catch me when I cruise with him so I’ll step it up and start using my smash game on him now. My a game is smashing passes and pressure so I don’t get to practice it too much on new guys.
     
  5. Patrick Carey

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    As soon as i read federal LE i instantly wondered if this guy was Rusty from my gym haha, brown belt and everything
     
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  6. noc

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    Damn too many assholes in Jiu Jitsu

    White belts should spar just between them
     
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  7. CFGroup

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    Use to train with this guy who did that.....Made me come back and work harder and eventually constantly beat his ass mercilessly in good fun.

    down side is I saw him do that to other potential long term prospects that had the physical ability, but not the mental toughness.

    I always look at it this way, the new prospects ether need to be mentored and trained to eventually be good training partners, or given a ton of technical detail, a pat on the head and sent on their way to compensate for their physical inefficiencies. Ether way they are getting what they need to stay and I'm getting refreshers as to how I executed basic movements and strategy way back when.

    Plus who the fuck relies on class time to get your rolls/randori in?

    That's for open mat, comp prep time and from my experience the team works with who they want.

    Who ever's instructing class makes the rules and as advanced belts it's a given we're representing the art to the public and low belts and trying to grow the school so we'll all have a(bigger/better) place to learn and train.
     
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  8. jr jr

    jr jr Purple Belt

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    Two different threads you have posted about bjj guys being assholes.......
    Can you show me on the doll where he hurt you?

    Seriously, where there are people there are assholes
     
  9. adnatal

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    He's never won a fight as an amateur but he's a pro boxer?
     
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    The other one iirc was about sore losers basically and this one is about bullies
    Im surprised because some people say Jiu Jitsu people is very humble and friendly because they spar and loss in every training or something like that
     
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  11. Foppa21

    Foppa21 Brown Belt

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    There are assholes everywhere. Just try to avoid them.

    Train with like minded individuals
     
  12. Foppa21

    Foppa21 Brown Belt

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    There has to be a element of rolling in classes. Some students (myself included) rely on it because we can't get in any other time. Given that, unfortunately I've got to get my learnings, drilling and some rolling in in the 90-120 minutes I have set aside of BJJ. Big long warm ups for cardio building on the other hand, I could do without.

    Class time is for learning.
     
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  13. Woldog

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    Yep you read that correctly, He had 5 amateur MMA fights, he won his first one by armbar and lost the rest in the first round. He had 3 amateur boxing matches and lost all three and has gone on to now have had 7 pro fights and lost all 7.
    Boxing is a sport you can go pro without any amateur record especially in Australia.
     
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  14. DanaWhitesButler

    DanaWhitesButler Brown Belt

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    LOL and what if he boxes or kickboxes and knocked you out instead? What if everyone else in the academy beat the fuck out of you. You sound like a genius
     
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    DanaWhitesButler Brown Belt

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    Midlife crisis blue belt here. If a new white belt tries to hurt me and won't chill out after multiple warnings, I will tap them with top pressure over and over with no remorse
     
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  16. cheachea

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    I get it. I'm referring to someone who hasn't done those things and has been respectful but is still aloud to be smashed for no reason.
     
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  17. CFGroup

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    Yeah man I get it, class can be a crap shoot in terms of who you get to roll with during class. There's always a pecking order as to who likes to train with who which works most of the time. My schedule was setup open all evening so I'd get pounded after class.

    Every instructor has their own warmup conditioning regiment. Sometimes I want to get right to it, but there's also the long term development gained from good cardio and stretching. Depends on your preferences.

    Wed and Sat with the chief instructor would always be higher belts pairing up with new guys. I use to be miffed about it and just wanted to train like hell, but then realized he was grooming us to have patience and learn how to teach. It also helped me go back and re discover the drills and pointers in my development that really stuck with me cause they worked.
     
  18. BangWhosNxt

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    Obviously that wouldn't happen.
     
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  19. lechien

    lechien Gold Belt

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    Losing a customer because your existing customers just took turn submitting him and what we call smashing him.

    We no longer have to prove that bjj works so to speak.

    I mean I started 15 years ago where people used to come around and basically challenge us.


    But nowdays, it is different.

    People just want to learn and not necessarily like to be proven that they don't know anything by getting submitted 5 times in 3 minutes.

    But I have some cry baby self promoted blue belt that always complains to white belts when they go too spazzy on him...


    Lol
     
  20. Ice 9 Cobra

    Ice 9 Cobra Black Belt

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    Open mats tend to become a circle jerk, having an impartial person set up rolls is so much better overall. I wouldn't sign up for a gym that does open mat only for rolling.
     
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