Russia may be supporting the Taliban in Afghanistan

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From BBC news.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43500299

Russia is supporting and even supplying arms to the Taliban, the head of US forces in Afghanistan has told the BBC.

In an exclusive interview, Gen John Nicholson said he'd seen "destabilising activity by the Russians."

He said Russian weapons were smuggled across the Tajik border to the Taliban, but could not say in what quantity. Russia has denied such US allegations in the past, citing a lack of evidence.

But the new claims come at a sensitive time in Russia's ties with Nato powers.

Britain and Russia are locked in a dispute over claims that Russia was behind an attack on a former Russian spy and his daughter on UK soil using a deadly nerve agent.

Meanwhile a US Congressional Intelligence Committee has just published a report concluding that Russian provocateurs meddled in the 2016 election.

"We see a narrative that's being used that grossly exaggerates the number of Isis [Islamic State group] fighters here," Gen Nicholson told BBC News. "This narrative then is used as a justification for the Russians to legitimise the actions of Taliban and provide some degree of support to the Taliban."

"We've had stories written by the Taliban that have appeared in the media about financial support provided by the enemy. We've had weapons brought to this headquarters and given to us by Afghan leaders and said, this was given by the Russians to the Taliban," he continued. "We know that the Russians are involved."

Much of Gen Nicholson's career has been spent in the conflict in Afghanistan. He narrowly escaped death when his office in the Pentagon was destroyed by one of the 9/11 planes and the US campaign in Afghanistan has shaped his career ever since.

He believes this direct Russian involvement with the Taliban is relatively new. He says Russia has conducted a series of exercises on the Afghan border with Tajikistan. "These are counter terrorism exercises," says Gen Nicholson, "but we've seen the Russian patterns before: they bring in large amounts of equipment and then they leave some of it behind."

The implication is that these weapons and other equipment are then smuggled across the border and supplied to the Taliban.


The general admits it is hard to quantify how much support Russia is actually giving the Taliban, but senior Afghan police officers and military figures have told the BBC that it includes night vision goggles, medium and heavy machine guns as well as small arms.

Afghan sources say these weapons are likely to have been used against Afghan forces and the Nato advisers who support them on some combat missions.

However, Russia is not an obvious ally of the Taliban. The Soviet Union fought a bitter war against the US-backed mujahedin after it invaded Afghanistan in 1979. Many of those same mujahedin fighters joined the Taliban when it was formed during the civil war that followed the humiliating Russian withdrawal in 1989.

The Taliban's enmity towards Russia was enduring, says Kate Clark of the Afghanistan Analysts Network: "The Taliban always castigated the Northern Alliance for dealing with Russia," she says.

It may be that now Russian and Taliban interests are becoming more closely aligned, she speculates.

President Trump has been pressuring Pakistan to sever its links with the Taliban. In January he suspended hundreds of millions of dollars of security aid after complaining on Twitter that Pakistan had "given us nothing but lies & deceit" and accusing it of providing "safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan".

The Taliban is also keen to distance itself from Pakistan and demonstrate that it is an independent force. That makes finding new funding lines and international backers important.

Russia, meanwhile, denies providing weapons or funds to the Taliban but has admitted that it has had talks with the insurgent group. It justified that on the basis of the shared opposition to the Islamic State group, which has been trying to establish a base in the north-east of Afghanistan.

However Russia may well believe there are wider geo-political benefits to be had from supporting the Taliban.

When I asked Gen Nicholson whether he thought that Russia was fighting a proxy war against America in Afghanistan he didn't address the question directly.

"This activity really picked up in the last 18 to 24 months," he replied. "Prior to that we had not seen this kind of destabilising activity by Russia here. When you look at the timing it roughly correlates to when things started to heat up in Syria. So it's interesting to note the timing of the whole thing."


"The enemy of my enemy is my friend", fits here.

Recently the Taliban have upped their attacks in the capital, last year one attack killed over 80 and this year in January over 100 were killed.

It could be private Russian arms dealers, rather than the state who's dealing with them with the state's approval. Or maybe the Russian state could see the Taliban as allies and a tool in Afghanistan.

Thoughts?
 
From BBC news.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43500299


Well the US helped create them to fight the Russians there back in the 70's... Its not far fetched that they would return the favor.



"The enemy of my enemy is my friend", fits here.

Recently the Taliban have upped their attacks in the capital, last year one attack killed over 80 and this year in January over 100 were killed.

It could be private Russian arms dealers, rather than the state who's dealing with them with the state's approval. Or maybe the Russian state could see the Taliban as allies and a tool in Afghanistan.

Thoughts?
 
Seems like a never ending cycle for Afghanistan, being used one way or another by two super powers!
 
said the random sherdogger to the head of US forces in afghanistan......
I can't tell if my headache is from this suppression hearing I've been stuck in for almost 3 hours or shit I'm seeing today on Sherdog....

ow....
 
Afghanistan borders Russian ally Tajikistan and okay friend Turkmenistan. So true chaos is not good for them. But hmmmmmmmm more accuse without evidence? If true it is payback for the 1980s
 
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said the random sherdogger to the head of US forces in afghanistan......

The military leaders would never lie. America would never elect a corrupt businessman like ukraine did. That is why USA overthrew him because he was corrupt businessman and USA wanted to liberate people. They know best same with when they arm taliban in 1980s against a evil socialist Afghanistan!!!! Socialism bad it kill billions people stalin and mao yeah and Hitler!! US just helping again
 
Another story with no evidence....


Russian weapons are used, so much so they know the source where they're coming from. As well as the Taliban and Russian state themselves admitting they've been cooperating.
Yeah,there's nothing here at all...
 
Russian weapons are used, so much so they know the source where they're coming from. As well as the Taliban and Russian state themselves admitting they've been cooperating.
Yeah,there's nothing here at all...

Maybe there is but show the evidence. The US cant be trusted.

All these russian stories and none have any real evidence.

Were talking about some guns and night vision goggles. Could have come from anywhere.
 
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I don't know whether this is true or not, but let's assume the accusation is right. I would blame America's antagonistic policy towards Russia, instigated by the Neocons , for Russia fcuking with us.

I think it is in American and Western interests NOT to wage a cold war against Russia, because they will then retaliate in whatever avenues they can. After the Berlin Wall went down, the West had a chance to bury the hatchet with Russia and turn a new leaf. Instead the West supported Russian oligarchs who were swindling Russia and moving the money overseas.Western establishment wanted to control Russia through its oligarchs. And to top it off, they were trying to move NATO borders closer to Russia. The primary danger to Western civ. is from Islamic hegemonists and secondarily from China. If we stopped trying to fcuk over Russia, and genuinely accepted them as a neutral country or ally, they wouldn't try to fcuk with us in the MidEast.

It's the same deal with Iran. Why are we trying to fcuk with them, when they can be very crucial allies against Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. The reason Pakistan knows it can fcuk with us is because they provide the only overland route to our troops from the Indian Ocean. If Iran was an ally, the US can move supplies into Afghanistan from Iran. But because of Israeli 5th columns in America, we put Israeli interests over American interests and in the process screw us over vis-a-vis the Taleban and Af-Pak war.
 
said the random sherdogger to the head of US forces in afghanistan......

No dude, we should trust Russia over him until we see the night vision googles and machine guns ourselves, that is how this works.

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No dude, we should trust Russia over him until we see the night vision googles and machine guns ourselves, that is how this works.

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Having "Afgan leaders" drop off weapons and say its from Russia doesnt sound very convincing.

I mean some guns and night vision goggles? That it?
 
Another story with no evidence....
I don't remember the details off the top of my head but first of all, the US has been saying this since before Russia became the bogeyman, and second of all, were talking about military intelligence here, not politicians. They don't say this shit for no reason. I bet you were saying the same fucking shit when all intelligence said Russia was behind DNC hacks.

I think Russian equipment that was recently developed (as opposed to old Kalashnikovs that are all around the world) was find among Taliban, equipment that was also tested in Ukraine, among other things.
 
They might be intel but intel agencies are made up of people, people with varying degrees of intelligence just like any other organization. What is the evidence and how did they come to this conclusion based off that evidence?

You telling me some guns and night vision goggles couldnt have come from anywhere but the Russian Gov?

Remember how Iraq didnt have WMD's? You still take Intel for their word? Youre a fool if you do.

Basically western intel has no credibility at all. No intel agency has credibility on their own.

You can chose to believe it, it may even be true, but unless im shown evidence that convinces me, im not willing to just accept our intel reports as fact.
 
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