1. Season 6 of the International Shoop League is now active! Click here to vote on your favorite shoop submissions!

Ruben Report- left leaning guest "the left is now a movement against working class people"

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by unimackpass, Dec 4, 2017.

  1. unimackpass

    unimackpass Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2010
    Messages:
    3,828
    Likes Received:
    3,331
    For people not familiar with the Rubin Report it's hosted by a gay married Jewish guy so it's not right wing.

    Brendan O'Neal talks about the left leaving him and the lefts response to Brexit being the possible nail in the coffin.

    It's a good conversation with plenty of critique for the right/altright.

    Starting at 25min. he goes right into the left being against working class people and the response to Brexit.

     
    Jackie Blue and fonzob1 like this.
  2. FIMN

    FIMN Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2007
    Messages:
    4,725
    Likes Received:
    3,527
    Agree with him broadly on antifa although he's not really addressed their history. His views on brexit are particularly myopic though.
     
  3. Kafir-kun

    Kafir-kun not-so-grand mufti of Sherdog

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2011
    Messages:
    28,501
    Likes Received:
    23,930
    Location:
    Democratic People's Islamic Republic of Kekistan
    <{outtahere}>
     
  4. Quipling

    Quipling Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2012
    Messages:
    9,045
    Likes Received:
    15,219
    Location:
    purgatory
    >identity politics is bullshit!
    >you can tell people's politics by their identity

    pick one kthx
     
    Trotsky, Gandhi, kpt018 and 13 others like this.
  5. HomerThompson

    HomerThompson Titanium Belt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2005
    Messages:
    41,510
    Likes Received:
    71,639
    Location:
    Terror Lake
    LMAO, the Alt-Reich version of Taquiya.
     
    Gandhi, tonni and Kafir-kun like this.
  6. Loko3

    Loko3 Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2016
    Messages:
    2,327
    Likes Received:
    5,078
    In addition to being an obvious fallacy if you are familiar with the Rubin Report you’d know he has moved well to the right after leaving TYT. In fact, that’s more or less his selling point as the only remaining liberal.



    He endorsed a guy that wants to privatize roads:

    https://www.austinpetersen.com/dave_rubin_endorses_austin

    Thinks MLK (who supported affirmative action and reparations) would be a conservative today.

    There are many more examples...

    It’s not a left wing show imo
     
  7. LogicalInsanity

    LogicalInsanity Steel Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2012
    Messages:
    25,620
    Likes Received:
    17,242
    He's right...

    The new left is as anti liberal as you can possibly get...

    True liberals here should be outraged at the left.
     
  8. Jackie Blue

    Jackie Blue Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    10,118
    Likes Received:
    19,341
    Location:
    Richard Kern's Playhouse
    It kind of reminds me of Jordan Peterson talking about when he was still left wing and then realized that left-wing professors didn't actually care about the poor, they just hated the rich. A lot of the PC stuff ends up shaming and alienating regular people who don't know and don't care how to play that elitist authoritarian leftist game. This is a large part of why Trump was elected. Former Obama voters basically swung the election in his favor.
     
  9. ultramanhyata

    ultramanhyata Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    18,111
    Likes Received:
    16,413
    Location:
    GPS Error
    Establishment dems and neo-libs promote policy that is counter to the interests of the working class.

    They are not "the left", however. At least not the economic left. By fucking definition.

    And Dave Ruben is an embarrassing imbecile.
     
  10. VivaRevolution

    VivaRevolution Whoopin' Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2016
    Messages:
    22,119
    Likes Received:
    23,272
    I got 10 minutes in, and had to stop watching. There is a answer here, and it is a electronic bill of rights. The internet as a whole is a public space.

    The government recognizing individual rights, is not the use of force against corporations. That is absurd.
     
  11. Jackie Blue

    Jackie Blue Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    10,118
    Likes Received:
    19,341
    Location:
    Richard Kern's Playhouse
    Not sure if serious.
     
    unimackpass and Liquid Smoke like this.
  12. jrams

    jrams Black Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2007
    Messages:
    6,796
    Likes Received:
    6,087
    Location:
    Beantown
  13. Phisher

    Phisher Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2006
    Messages:
    12,194
    Likes Received:
    15,942

    When Rubin was with the TYT network a few years ago, he always struck me as the dumbest host that they had on air.

    Claiming that he's still any kind of liberal is laughable. All he does is blame the left for all of society's ills.

    If you want to see an illustration of what a vacuous fraud he is, watch his interview with David Pakman where he's challenged to actually explain his worldview.




     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2017
  14. Jackie Blue

    Jackie Blue Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    10,118
    Likes Received:
    19,341
    Location:
    Richard Kern's Playhouse
    I'm a big Rubin fan but this made me LOL. :D
     
    tonni and Kafir-kun like this.
  15. Phisher

    Phisher Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2006
    Messages:
    12,194
    Likes Received:
    15,942
    Anyway, on topic. The GOP has been crushing the working class for years. They've destroyed workers' rights with "right-to-work" laws, crushed public and private sector unions and are about to pass a tax reform bill that will actually increase taxes on the working class to fund massive tax cuts for multinational corporations and the wealthy.

    Corporatist Democrats are almost as hostile to workers' rights, but they're not actually leftists. They're in the position that moderate Republicans used to be in back when they actually existed.

    You can dislike the left for being "too PC," but that has fuck all to do with hurting the working class.

    How anybody can spout this shit with a straight face is beyond me.
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2017
  16. spin_

    spin_ Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2008
    Messages:
    14,999
    Likes Received:
    9,847
    Sweet someone had an opinion


    And?
     
  17. Amerikuracana

    Amerikuracana Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2007
    Messages:
    43,010
    Likes Received:
    14,106
    Location:
    Macomb mi
    People wanted an Independant who was pro American industry, and who wasn't total PC, so we could change our world..

    Why??

    They like the pain...

    They like the misery...

    They like this world!!
     
    unimackpass likes this.
  18. unimackpass

    unimackpass Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2010
    Messages:
    3,828
    Likes Received:
    3,331
    Brexit is is multifaceted but I found his perspective on the lefts response to it insightful. Calling people bigots as a response (slander isn't a argument) emboldened people rather than shaming them into submission as they arrogantly thought would be the outcome. Shaming is the new debate tactic, check out any threde around here ;). The same thing went on during the election (deplorables and baskets full at that :) ) only affirmed what people believed they were up against.
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2017
    Zer likes this.
  19. Jackie Blue

    Jackie Blue Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    10,118
    Likes Received:
    19,341
    Location:
    Richard Kern's Playhouse
    Working class people resent political correctness and being told that they're privileged. This certainly had something to do with so many white working class Obama voters switching over to Trump.
     
    Morning Star, Zer and unimackpass like this.
  20. unimackpass

    unimackpass Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2010
    Messages:
    3,828
    Likes Received:
    3,331
    Interesting, you might have a point here. I use that line when people are adverse to listening to anything that might be anti gay or bigoted. Usually when I explain who this Rubin guy is their a little more open minded. I should be more careful around here.
     

Share This Page