Robocop (1987) question

His movement is a 5/10 at the beginning and then it goes to a 10/10 once he updates his firmware (deleted scene).
 
I can't remember that detail but the movie is kinda overrated. Gritty, good and yes controversial by today's standard.

Really? It wasn't too long ago that "torture porn" was a thriving sub-genre. I don't see anything in Robocop more controversial than what you see in an average HBO series.

What exactly is so controversial about Robocop?
 
Really? It wasn't too long ago that "torture porn" was a thriving sub-genre. I don't see anything in Robocop more controversial than what you see in an average HBO series.

What exactly is so controversial about Robocop?

Yeah, I have no idea what that is in reference to. There is absolutely nothing controversial about Robocop. While it's true there is someone out there who will take issue with anything in any movie, there aren't more of those people around now. It's just that those people now have the internet and you get to hear about it.
 
There's no way a mainstream rated R film can get away with torturing the main character and laughing about it. Except for ROBOCOP.
 
Yeah, I have no idea what that is in reference to. There is absolutely nothing controversial about Robocop. While it's true there is someone out there who will take issue with anything in any movie, there aren't more of those people around now. It's just that those people now have the internet and you get to hear about it.

Perhaps people are referring to the PG-13 remake, when they think about it being too extreme for today's generation. That really had nothing to do with censorship, or "PC culture" though, and was just the studio trying to sell it to a broader audience.

I guess that has changed a bit. Where you can make a hard R-rated movie, and then market toys for kids based off the movie. In the 80's/90's, you would've seen a movie like "John Wick" having toys being advertised during children's shows.
 
I remember watching this film on VHS with my nan when I was about 9 (I didn't know much about the film before we rented it out).
 
Robocop, Predator, Aliens, Terminator.

Damn, the 80's were badass.

Now if they could make an Robocop Vs. Terminator Vs. Aliens Vs Predator movie that s**t
would be awesome.

BTW I love the first two Robocop movies.
 
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He doesn't need to be fast. He's Robocop.

Now, when he's facing the superior firepower of the Detroit PD SWAT team backed by OCP firepower and ED209 it is prudent to get the fuck out of the way.
 
But then Red Foreman punctures his armor by thrusting a rusty piece of sharp metal into him.

I'm not one to look for plot holes in movies at all. I get immersed and it becomes like a dream in that everything somehow makes sense. But when I saw that, I was like "wtf? Bullets couldn't penetrate him but that could?"
Cumulative damage. He was shot hundreds of times, thus weakening his armour and making it susceptible to melee attacks.
 
I bet you think you're pretty smart?
Think you can outsmart a bullet?

Haha, this movie's a classic.

Belongs in the Paul McCrane appreciation thread.
 
Wtf? I literally just got done watching Robocop for the first time in like 25 years.

First of all, I have no idea what you mean by Hollywood being too PC to make this movie today. If this movie were made today, all you anti-pc culture people would bitch about how the gang was multi racial "just to appease the liberals". Or about how they made the corporation out to be the bad guys. Or about how Robocop's partner was a chubby woman because "they wanted to appeal to the feminists and fat acceptance crowd". You guys find anything to bitch about, and then bitch about black people bitching about racism more than they actually bitch about it. It's insane.

To answer your second question, he moved slow because in that scene they wanted to show how robotic he was. Then in the scenes where he moved fast, he did so because it was necessary for the scene to work. It wasn't all part of some grand narrative about Robocop having superhuman speed or a lack thereof.

That is the strange situation with a lot of those R rated sci fi actioners from the late 80's and very early 90's to me, people on both sides of the debate seem to look back on them as some kind of age of right wing politics yet the films themselves generally had a pretty strong anti establishment message.

I would actually say part of the weakness of the remakes of Total Recall and Robocop is that there so spineless when it comes to there social criticism compared to Verhoeven's pitch black originals.

Generally I tend to think action blockbusters have tended to move towards being more establishment friendly from the 90's onwards. Notice the trend for glorification of the US armed forces for example, in the past you might have had individual soldiers glorified but very often dealing with a corrupt establishment(Predator for example).
 
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Wtf? I literally just got done watching Robocop for the first time in like 25 years.

First of all, I have no idea what you mean by Hollywood being too PC to make this movie today. If this movie were made today, all you anti-pc culture people would bitch about how the gang was multi racial "just to appease the liberals". Or about how they made the corporation out to be the bad guys. Or about how Robocop's partner was a chubby woman because "they wanted to appeal to the feminists and fat acceptance crowd". You guys find anything to bitch about, and then bitch about black people bitching about racism more than they actually bitch about it. It's insane.

To answer your second question, he moved slow because in that scene they wanted to show how robotic he was. Then in the scenes where he moved fast, he did so because it was necessary for the scene to work. It wasn't all part of some grand narrative about Robocop having superhuman speed or a lack thereof.

The movie really is an ultra violent satire. Also I wouldn’t call Nancy Allen chubby. I would post a picture but I’m having issues with my phone.
 
The movie really is an ultra violent satire. Also I wouldn’t call Nancy Allen chubby. I would post a picture but I’m having issues with my phone.

Brilliant satire. Consumerism, mainstream media, corporate culture.
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When Murphy gets executed that shit haunted me as a kid
 
That is the strange situation with a lot of those R rated sci fi actioners from the late 80's and very early 90's to me, people on both sides of the debate seem to look back on them as some kind of age of right wing politics yet the films themselves generally had a pretty strong anti establishment message.

I would actually say part of the weakness of the remakes of Total Recall and Robocop is that there so spineless when it comes to there social criticism compared to Verhoeven's pitch black originals.

Generally I tend to think action blockbusters have tended to move towards being more establishment friendly from the 90's onwards. Notice the trend for glorification of the US armed forces for example, in the past you might have had individual soldiers glorified but very often dealing with a corrupt establishment(Predator for example).

And Rambo.
 
Wtf? I literally just got done watching Robocop for the first time in like 25 years.

First of all, I have no idea what you mean by Hollywood being too PC to make this movie today. If this movie were made today, all you anti-pc culture people would bitch about how the gang was multi racial "just to appease the liberals". Or about how they made the corporation out to be the bad guys. Or about how Robocop's partner was a chubby woman because "they wanted to appeal to the feminists and fat acceptance crowd". You guys find anything to bitch about, and then bitch about black people bitching about racism more than they actually bitch about it. It's insane.

To answer your second question, he moved slow because in that scene they wanted to show how robotic he was. Then in the scenes where he moved fast, he did so because it was necessary for the scene to work. It wasn't all part of some grand narrative about Robocop having superhuman speed or a lack thereof.
Damn , son, you bitch a lot.
 
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