Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by oldschoolmmafan, Dec 7, 2018.
Same as how Hughes got finished by Hallman.
Shields also has wins over Woodley, Dan Henderson, Condit, plus more. Not the same as Hallman.
I was comparing in the sense that having the advantage on head-to-head match ups doesn't tell the whole story, didn't say Shields doesn't have achievements
Another example JDS/Cain. Cain has the edge in their fights but JDS better resume
I gave myself room because there are probably individuals that feel like he isn't a top 10.
Future Hall of Famer and a fighter that will be remembered fondly as long as MMA exists by hardcore fans.
Would be amazing if he still has a couple of good years in him, maybe even one more shot at the title down the line, although that's probably just wishful thinking.
When Robbie actually attacks, he is one of the scariest guys I've seen in the octagon. Too bad he could only do it for 30 seconds every other round.
Dude fought RDA with a busted knee, legendary bloody staredown with Rory, what a beast... absolute stud.
Hard not to like the guy. He should've lost to both Hendricks and Cerrone, but he's a fan favorite none the less
I would go top 10.
no particular order, but it is easy to forget about how good Gracie, Militech were, and Silva fought at 170 for a bit.
I would argue that's another bad example. Cain is/was a significantly better fighter, his resume lacks diversity due to a litany of injuries.
I see what you're saying though. Just not sure I agree. Even though Lawler did win the championship (in a close fight I thought he could have lost) and defended it against Condit (in a close fight I think he could have lost), he also has lots of losses.
Even comparing careers, I'm not convinced his is superior to Jake's. Certainly not enough to negate his dominant loss to Jake, imo (unlike the Hughes/Hallman anomaly).
Thats cool and all but I cannot take any WW all time top15 list with Diaz in it seriously
An extremely tough individual, willing to walk through fire to get his shots in, and often successful in it, if somewhat skill limited. Incidentally, he will likely be remembered by people that followed him closely as a fighter that fought much/most of his career in the wrong weight class.
I'm saying the transition from journey man to champion was similar. Not their fighting styles.
Ah! then I see your point and apologize for misunderstanding!
As you can see, I am a little.... protective of the fighters I like
He is an ideal MMA fighter - resilient, brave, strategic, always developing, and humble.
Had FOTY 3 consecutive years
Most entertaining welterweight ever
Yea, but during Lawler’s resurgence, he earned his title shots and beat some of the best guys in the division.
He was a man about being champ, and did his duty facing top contenders.
Bisping lost to all the best guys in the division, and didn’t earn his title shot.
After catching Rockhold with his pants down, he avoided top contenders.
I like the guy, but his resurgence is suspect.
I thought he lost to Condit too but I appreciate all the great fights he's given us.
I was a Pig Rig fan, and am still a huge Cerrone fan so those burned me up, but you can't help but respect the guy and enjoy his fights
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