Right-Wing narrative! Rape in Bavaria up 50%(!), migrant rape up more than 90%....

luckyshot said:
I'd imagine a woman being raped doesn't particularly care who the rapist is.
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Yeah, I'd imagine she would. Especially if the savage that raped her never should have been allowed into her country in the first place.

Fuck you're stupid.
 
hitcher said:
As a German speaker I can confirm lecters translation, however, the term zuwanderer is badly chosen by the police, because It may be used differently.

Jesus christ, @HomerThompson what Kind of proof for the translation are you looking for now?
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Does that include economic migrants as well?
 
lecter said:
Leftists always know what's important for other people.
It's pretty much in line with their view on politics in general.
They also know who's voting against their own interest, what items people "need" and therefore should be allowed to own, what healthcare people really need etc
So why wouldn't they know how victims of crimes and their families feel about it?
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All politics is about ideas and policies that people think are best for society. Congratulations, you just played yourself.
 
lecter said:
No that's literally the formal definition of a refugee and describes <2% of the population.

You're functionally retarded at this point if you can't see you were wrong.
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That definition appears to include economic migrants as well. Possibly even people who overstayed temporary visas(or their German equivalent).
 
HomerThompson said:
That definition appears to include economic migrants as well. Possibly even people who overstayed temporary visas(or their German equivalent).
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no foreign workers are non-Germans but not in 'zuwanderer'
again, it describes <2% of the population
this was also sourced in this thread
why can't you wrap your fucking head around that?
 
lecter said:
no foreign workers are non-Germans but not in 'zuwanderer'
again, it describes <2% of the population
this was also sourced in this thread
why can't you wrap your fucking head around that?
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Economic migrants aren't necessarily foreign workers. I mean immigrants in the classic sense. Mexicans into the US, Irish into the US once upon a time.
 
@HomerThompson we can look at the list one by one.
Asylbewerber - asylum seeker, that's self-explanatory.
Duldung - toleration, is similar to deferred action. According to German Wikipedia this status applies to ~0.18% of the population.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duldung_(Aufenthaltsrecht)#Praxis
Kontingentfluechtling - literal translation would be quota refugee, a certain number of refugees from war zones can be officially brought into Germany. They didn't come there via illegal immigration but were sort of 'invited'.
Buergerkriegsfluechtling - literal 'civil war refugee', self-explanatory.
then, what I think you were confused by:
international/national Schutzberechtigte und Asylberechtigte, doesn't mean international migrants but describes "Subsidiär Schutzberechtigte", the literal translation would be something like 'entitled to protection', people who can't apply for Asylum because they're not personally prosecuted for political reasons but possibly face death in their home country, for example, because of armed conflicts. Together with actual asylum seekers, it's one of 2 main groups of the so-called refugee crisis. Refugees are mainly 'Asylbewerber' and 'subsidiaer Schutzberechtigte'.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiär_Schutzberechtigter
That's also true for refugees who can't enforce a right to be accepted as civil war refugees or broke a law or something but also can't be deported because that would be seen as an indirect death penalty.They're deported once armed conflicts are over.


 
lecter said:
@HomerThompson we can look at the list one by one.
Asylbewerber - asylum seeker, that's self-explanatory.
Duldung - toleration, is similar to deferred action. According to German Wikipedia this status applies to ~0.18% of the population.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duldung_(Aufenthaltsrecht)#Praxis
Kontingentfluechtling - literal translation would be quota refugee, a certain number of refugees from war zones can be officially brought into Germany. They didn't come there via illegal immigration but were sort of 'invited'.
Buergerkriegsfluechtling - literal 'civil war refugee', self-explanatory.
then, what I think you were confused by:
international/national Schutzberechtigte und Asylberechtigte, doesn't mean international migrants but describes "Subsidiär Schutzberechtigte", the literal translation would be something like 'entitled to protection', people who can't apply for Asylum because they're not personally prosecuted for political reasons but possibly face death in their home country, for example, because of armed conflicts. Together with actual asylum seekers, it's one of 2 main groups of the so-called refugee crisis. Refugees are mainly 'Asylbewerber' and 'subsidiaer Schutzberechtigte'.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiär_Schutzberechtigter
That's also true for refugees who can't enforce a right to be accepted as civil war refugees or broke a law or something but also can't be deported because that would be seen as an indirect death penalty.They're deported once armed conflicts are over.
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Slippery Kantus said:
Yeah, I'd imagine she would. Especially if the savage that raped her never should have been allowed into her country in the first place.

Fuck you're stupid.
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Riiiight. Because when a woman is being raped by a native German, she's probably thinking, "Gee, I'm sooo lucky this isn't a refugee raping me!"

Who is stupid here?

Even with all those refugees in Germany, a woman is still 4x as likely to get raped in the US. Why don't you right wingers spend a little more time worrying about that and a little less time worrying about a foreign country's humanitarian policy?
 
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luckyshot said:
Riiiight. Because when a woman is being raped by a native German, she's probably thinking, "Gee, I'm sooo lucky this isn't a refugee raping me!"

Who is stupid here?
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Are people stupid if they are outraged over a black man being killed by the police vs being killed by another black man? Just as dead right? "Soooo lucky this isn't a white cop shooting me"?
 
The first wave of invaders always rape.

Fight back against rape. The enemy has taken over certain government and media outlets.

You are losing when police are told to go after citizens over refugees.
 
luckyshot said:
Riiiight. Because when a woman is being raped by a native German, she's probably thinking, "Gee, I'm sooo lucky this isn't a refugee raping me!"

Who is stupid here?
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It's still you.

You're too stupid to comprehend why a crime committed by someone who never should have been there is worse than a "native" crime. Not to mention the preferential treatment the "refugee" rapists get, since they couldn't possibly know better.

luckyshot said:
Even with all those refugees in Germany, a woman is still 4x as likely to get raped in the US. Why don't you right wingers spend a little more time worrying about that and a little less time worrying about a foreign country's humanitarian policy?
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I'm not a right winger nor am I American, I just do my best to view things objectively unlike yourself.

There are repercussions to flooding your country with 3rd world savages, most of which are young men. Until my government stops trying to bring them to my country I will continue to call out the stupidity of people like yourself.
 
HomerThompson said:
He mentions 3 groups, but the article about Bavaria only splits the stats into 2 groups. He's bringing in stats and terminology from other sources that doesn't marry with the article about Bavaria, in my mind. No where in that article does it have 3 distinct groups for crime reporting purposes.
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This is why I regret not continuing my secondary language education. I will have to concede to you on this @HomerThompson as I can only read a few words of German right now. Also, why is he bringing in facts from outside of Bavaria, that does not seem relevant.

This is why I can be my own worst enemy, as I jumped in like always and immediately sided with the "right wing" position with out having thoroughly researched it.. Tired of being on the wrong side of issues..
 
HomerThompson said:
The other articles were either about all of Germany, from what I saw, or I couldn't translate initially. Then, when I did, I feel it bolsters my position instead of his. Obviously, he disagrees, and here we are. Admittedly, I don't speak, or read German, so I could be missing something. But, even with no refugees in those stats, there still would have been a very large increase in alleged rapes in Bavaria. Therefore, this thread is disingenuously presented outrage porn for the Alt-Right.

Immigrant crime is obviously a problem, and it needs to be seriously addressed, along with overall immigrant assimilation problems. There's no reason to paint a picture of the sky falling. Reactionary thinking is dangerous and counterproductive to producing actual solutions to complex problems.
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You are correct, but clearly we have seen quotes and articles from leaders over there that are downplaying or out right denying there is even a problem. Like when they covered up the mass rapes from a while ago. How can they produce actual solutions to the complex problems if no one over there is willing to actually talk about the issue factually?
 
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