Right-Wing narrative! Rape in Bavaria up 50%(!), migrant rape up more than 90%....

[lecter]

... and non-Germans now commit 30% of all sexual assaults.

Looks like some right-wing bigots are pushing their NARRATIVE again, just look at that OUTRAGE-PORN *smh*
What can we do against these constant "fake news" campaigns which promote the absurd idea that migrants in Europe set off a rape epidemic or something? Why are some isolated incidents somewhere in Europe brought up all the time and blown out of proportion?

Oh no wait, it's the internal affairs ministry of the Free State of Bavaria that released official numbers and it actually is an epidemic caused by migrants. That comes 6 months after the release of crime stats of another German state (Westphalia) which also showed sexual assaults at an all-time high and a significant over-representation of migrants and asylum seekers. And it's still getting worse as more and more migrants are pouring into European nations.

After a previous increase in sexual assaults, the number of rape cases in the first 6 months of 2017 is already up 48% compared to the beginning of 2016. It's constantly getting worse.
Looking at the number of rapes committed by refugees (not immigrants) alone, it's up 91%, good job.
Non-Germans commit 29.3% of all sexual assaults. That's only people without German citizenship.
Refugees alone (~1.8% of the population in Bavaria edit: probably closer to 1.2%, see comments below) commit 18.4% of all sexual assaults.
They really improved their performance in 2016 it was "only" 14%.

I feel sorry for the victims because realistically it will get worse and there's no real solution at this point, Europe crossed the Rubicon so to speak.
It's especially frustrating considering they always were more civilized and peaceful when it comes to crime rates, often much better stats than the US. They didn't even have to "solve" a lot of problems the US faces, just uphold the status-quo. Now they're throwing it away for virtue signaling and the desperate attempt to confirm their own delusion worldview.

Another important takeaway of crime stats of foreign nations is that diversity and 'immigration' are completely empty phrases. Immigrants from some nation/cultures are as law-abiding as the native population, if not more, other groups of immigrants commit 20x as many crimes.

Chancellor Merkel already commented on the issue and said she doesn't see a demographic problem and it's important that refugees aren't under general suspicion in Germany

crime stats
https://www.merkur.de/bayern/fast-5...tigungen-herrmanns-schock-zahlen-8678791.html
Merkel's comment
https://www.merkur.de/politik/verge...anderer-sagt-kanzlerin-merkel-zr-8686095.html
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[IDL]

How is this not progress and enrichment though?

 

[Co-Co Zola]

rapists are scum

 

[hillelslovak87]

Nope, never happened. Diversity, diversity, love, tolerance tolerance.

 

[Burning Hammer]

Different culture, hard to judge.

 

[nostradumbass]

Huh, I just figured Bavarian and Swedish men just randomly decided to go on a rape rampage at the exact time of the migrant influx. I have it on good authority that refugees and illegal immigrants make places safer. I think they're actually all basically super heroes fighting crime in all these places.

 

[The ScorpioN]

Can't be.

@Thames assured me refugees would be model citizens at best, or have crime rates on par with the natives at worst.

Probably fake news from Drumpftards

 

[HomerThompson]

If you read the article, you'll see that the citizen rate rose more than the immigrant rate as a portion of the total increase. The immigrant rate increase is clearly a problem, but so is the overall increase. Something like 230 more reported rapes, of which 60 were immigrants. Feel free to check the math.

 

[lecter]

If you read the article, you'll see that the citizen rate rose more than the immigrant rate

No it didn't

 

[HomerThompson]

No it didn't

In that they are responsible for more of the total increase. 37.5%(roughly) of the 50% increase is due to citizens. Their in-group rate did not increase more than the immigrant in-group rate.

 

[splendica]

Migrants might be the cause, but they may also have the solution: stone the victims for talking.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

It is a small price to pay for cultural enrichment.

Germans should follow the Dutch and wear mini-skirts to send the message that rape is wrong. I'm certain the migrants will realize their wrongdoings once they see German men wearing women's clothing.

Beautiful Progress

 

[lecter]

In that they are responsible for more of the total increase. 37.5%(roughly) of the 50% increase is due to citizens. Their in-group rate did not increase more than the immigrant in-group rate.

No, because rapes minus rapes committed by refugees aren't rapes committed by citizens.
"Refugees" (in the crime stats 'zuwanderer') is a group distinct from non-Germans and only one aspect of mass immigration, both groups are overrepresented.

In 2016 there were 463 cases, offenders = Germans, non-Germans, refugees.
In 2017 there were 685 cases, a + of 222.
Looking at the increase, refugees, ca 1.8% of the population, were responsible for +60 out of +222 cases.
The + of 222-60=162 is the increase in crimes committed by Germans and non-Germans who don't have refugee status.
In 2016 less than 2% of the population committed ~15% of all rapes, now they're up to 18%.
Non-Germans commit 30% of all assaults.
I really don't know what "yeah but...." is left here.
Other than the fact that 98.2% of the population commit more crimes in absolute numbers than 1.8%, conservatards btfo again.

 

[HomerThompson]

No, because rapes minus rapes committed by refugees aren't rapes committed by citizens.
"Refugees" (in the crime stats 'zuwanderer') is a group distinct from non-Germans and only one aspect of mass immigration, both groups are overrepresented.

In 2016 there were 463 cases, offenders = Germans, non-Germans, refugees.
In 2017 there were 685 cases, a + of 222.
Looking at the increase, refugees, ca 1.8% of the population, were responsible for +60 out of +222 cases.
The + of 222-60=162 is the increase in crimes committed by Germans and non-Germans who don't have refugee status.
In 2016 less than 2% of the population committed ~15% of all rapes, now they're up to 18%.
Non-Germans commit 30% of all assaults.
I really don't know what "yeah but...." is left here.
Other than the fact that 98.2% of the population commit more crimes in absolute numbers than 1.8%, conservatards btfo again.

That article is specifically about Bavaria. Do you have demographics for Bavaria? Also, I didn't see mention of there being 3 distinct categories in that article either. Source? According to the article it was all immigrants, not those with refugee status.

Again, this was about Bavaria. Unless yo have accurate demographics for Bavaria, your point is weak. Again again, all immigrants were included in those number according to the article. There was no mention of refugees or refugee status.

 

[lecter]

That article is specifically about Bavaria.

Yes, and I'm talking about Bavaria? What makes you think otherwise?

Do you have demographics for Bavaria?

Yes, I looked it up, I put a "~" before the % because general census and registration of refugees aren't done by the same agency, so you inevitably have to compare two numbers from different sources.
Population of Bavaria, early 2016: 12860010 (Bavarian State Office for Statistics and Data Processing)
Refugees in Bavaria, same month, as reported by MSM: ~156000
http://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern-verteilung-fluechtlinge-102.html
That would be ~1.2%.

I used an English source when I looked up the population, that's why I wrote 1.8%. Obviously, the Bavarian State office is the better source.
Of course, I didn't overstate my point, if anything that would make it worse. But it's something around <2%. "Not even 2%" without giving an actual number is an expression used by German MSM.

Also, I didn't see mention of there being 3 distinct categories in that article either. Source?

The terminology is taken from police crime stats.
They use "nichtdeutsch" (non-German), "deutsch" (German) and "Zuwanderer".
If you Google translate it, Zuwanderer is translated as 'migrants' but it's the third group and describes:
"Asylbewerber, Geduldete, Kontingent-/Bürgerkriegsflüchtlinge, unerlaubt oder international/national Schutzberechtigte und Asylberechtigte".
"Asylum seekers, tolerated refugees, civil war refugees, people entitled to protection and/or asylum"
There is no official category "refugees", what we call refugees are all people who belong to one out of multiple groups. The main groups of refugees are asylum seekers and ~'entiteled to protection'.
Here, a screenshot of an actual police report, deutsch, nichtdeutsch, zuwanderer

https://www.polizei.bayern.de/content/6/4/9/pks_pressebericht_2016.pdf

According to the article it was all immigrants, not those with refugee status.

The article isn't 100% clear but it also doesn't say anything wrong. Google translator adds to the problem.

Again, this was about Bavaria. Unless yo have accurate demographics for Bavaria, your point is weak. Again again, all immigrants were included in those number according to the article. There was no mention of refugees or refugee status.

No because Zuwanderer in crime stats = refugees.
There's nothing to defend or relativize here.

 

[Deleted member 491001]

It is a small price to pay for cultural enrichment.

Germans should follow the Dutch and wear mini-skirts to send the message that rape is wrong. I'm certain the migrants will realize their wrongdoings once they see German men wearing women's clothing.

Beautiful Progress

Do Germans perform "slut-walk" marches/protests like in the states?

 

[ReAnimator Reagan]

That article is specifically about Bavaria. Do you have demographics for Bavaria? Also, I didn't see mention of there being 3 distinct categories in that article either. Source? According to the article it was all immigrants, not those with refugee status.

Again, this was about Bavaria. Unless yo have accurate demographics for Bavaria, your point is weak. Again again, all immigrants were included in those number according to the article. There was no mention of refugees or refugee status.

LOL your avatar is fucking perfect. You argue just like Homer Simpson would. "Know thyself".

 

[uppercutbus]

looks like homer got raped itt.

 

[The ScorpioN]

looks like homer got raped itt.

Deport @lecter back to the heavies.

 

[Lex Bigelow]

Dr. David Duke says it best when he points out the obvious truth that these initiatives are destroying true diversity. If we want diversity we respect individual human subspecies and give them territory to thrive as they naturally would. We wouldn't drop a few wolf packs and a bison herd on an African Savannah to create biological diversity.