RICKSON promoted to RED BELT! | Page 3

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  1. Rado Blue Belt

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    When I realized he was going to turn the belt down, I was taken aback . I don't think there is a person in the world who would. But then again he is Rickson.

    The interesting thing is how some in this thread try to put a bad spin on the whole thing.
     
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  2. mattemate Brown Belt

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    He's almost ready for Buchecha.
     
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  3. Fruitsaladsushi Blue Belt

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    If rickson isn't a red belt who the hell is ?
     
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  4. Abdokov09 White Belt

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    I agree that nobody who is alive deserves it more than Rickson. But as you guys said, we do need standards.
     
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  5. Habs fan White Belt

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    Abdokov09 why does Rickson deserve it more than anyone alive? I am confused isn't that going against what Rickson is saying. If a 4 strip black belt is standing next to a 3 strip black belt world champion I don't assume the 4 strip is better i just think he has more time in as a black belt. Is going by time in not good enough or should we look at other factors?
     
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  6. nefti Red Belt

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    It was a political power play by rorion
     
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  7. nefti Red Belt

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    You are falling for the narrative rorion wants you to fall into. It is not about if rickson deserves it or not. It is about rorion wanting to try to stay relevant and influential in jiu jitsu by being the "authority" that promotes rickson. it's simple as that. It's not about rickson, this was rorion making sure rickson got his belt from him.
     
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  8. TheMood Blue Belt

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    Nefti, do you think Rickson saw it that way as well?
     
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  9. Ryo Black Belt

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    I guarantee that he did. Rickson and Rorian have a history of not getting a long. Rorians side have been trying to consolidate control over the Gracie name for years. Didn't they even sue Rickson or something? So it's pretty obvious that Rorian is trying to look like the highest authority in Gracie JJ. He has the authority to award rank to even the great Rickson.
     
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  10. kfighter White Belt

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    Ron Tripp.
     
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  11. nefti Red Belt

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    No, it was rolls and Carlson that evolved jiu jitsu - rickson was the beneficiary of those two pioneers. He was the most gifted Gracie.
     
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  12. Ryo Black Belt

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    Modified Judo lol
     
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  13. mauasci Orange Belt

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    That dude nobody heard of before or since?
     
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  14. loyalyolayal Double Yellow Card

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    Ceremony would only be valid if Travis Lutter was there.
     
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  15. Thunderhead Assman Extraordinaire

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  16. BADodd06 Orange Belt

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    Wikipedia shows this list of red belt although this is in all of history from what I can tell. Any idea how many are still alive? How many there are that are still active?
    Pedro Hemeterio
    Joao Alberto Barreto
    Alvaro Barreto
    Flavio Behring
    Carlson Gracie
    Carley Gracie
    Geny Rebello
    Armando Wridt
    Oswaldo Fadda
    Pedro Valente Sr.
    Wilson Mattos
    Luis Carlos Guedes de Castro
    Francisco Mansor
    Rorion Gracie
    Osvaldo Alves
    Relson Gracie
    Carlos Antonio Rosado
    Renato Paquet
    Francisco Sá (Sazinho)
    Robson Gracie
    Reyson Gracie
    Rickson Gracie
     
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  17. Avin1973 White Belt

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  18. Rado Blue Belt

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    More like improved Judo.
     
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  19. Rado Blue Belt

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    Actually that's not right. Rickson also helped improving and evolving things. It would be foolish to think the art didn't evolve after 1982. Carlson took over from Helio, Rolls took over from Carlson, Rickson took over from Rolls etc.
     
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  20. Ryo Black Belt

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    Debatable

    Some areas perhaps. And for some purposes that most people care nothing about, I guess.
     
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