Review of Cleto Reyes Lace-Up 16oz. training gloves

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    This is a review of the Cleto Reyes 16oz. lace-up training gloves. I bought these from MMAWarehouse via Amazon after several failed attempts to buy used Reyes for cheap. I have attempted to use Reyes a few times before, but grew impatient with the break-in process and ended up selling the gloves. This time, I decided to stick with it.

    It’s hard to remember exactly how long I have been using these because I have been rotating the Reyes with Zeus gloves (that have since been retired after 7 months of dedicated use and are selling now on eBay…) and TU Death Adders. That said, I have probably used these for a solid five or six months (bought them back in November 2016). I have used them for sparring, mitts, and on the bag. For reasons that will become obvious below, they are no longer used for sparring.

    Quality: decent. The brand is known for quality and craftsmanship. That said, I have tried on at least two pairs of Reyes that have had relatively significant manufacturing defects. In one pair the stitching in the hand compartment was bunched up and sewed in a way that disallowed full extension of the index finger; in another pair, the stitching inside the liner connecting the cuff to the backhand had loose stitching (such that the padding was visible). The most recent pair I have has been pretty good, but I have noticed bits of padding coming out of the gloves while I use them, and it appears that the pieces are coming out from the same meeting point between the end of the cuff and the beginning of the backhand part of the liner (if that makes sense). All that to say, quality is better than a lot of other gloves I’ve tried, for sure, but still not as great as one might expect given the brand. If you buy a pair, I’d examine the gloves carefully before committing to full use.

    Fit: One thing that I noticed about this pair of Reyes relative to earlier pairs is the fit. These are definitely narrower than other Reyes' I've tried. As a result, the fit is much more snug, which I like. I am not a huge fan of too much hand space (width-wise) which was an issue with the earlier Reyes training gloves. Once broken-in, they do feel pretty great, though. No issues with finger-length.

    Durability: Reyes training gloves are touted as being more durable gloves. This has to do with the sort of padding that is used in their gloves. I believe they are a single piece of latex (others can correct me if I’m wrong). They are pretty durable. They took at least a month of regular use to not feel awkward, especially in the thumb area. The break-in process was a veritable pain in the ass. Incidentally, I continue to find that they still feel somewhat bulky for at least two rounds every time I use them; after a few rounds, though, they fit like a glove... That said, the padding has been breaking down gradually. I’d say they still have several months in them, but the knuckle padding area is palpably dwindling down. The good news is that I still am not able to punch through the padding and the gloves fit a lot better than before; the bad news is that it is unclear how much longer they will last. Bits of padding falls out of the glove when I use them now (as a result of which the floor surrounding the heavy bag has little pieces of padding confetti). Nevertheless, the liner itself remains in good condition (a problem I had with the Zeus and Sabas gloves) so I will continue to use them. Out of all the gloves I’ve tried so far, it appears that Zeus ‘extra firm’ padding is the longest lasting.

    Leather: I purchased them in white. I love the way they look, but they definitely get the weathered appearance a lot more quickly than other colors. That’s just the way it is with white leather, I suppose. If I were to get another pair (not really something I’m considering), I’d probably get black.

    Performance: They aiite. The padding is pretty bulky on these. As a result, they can sometimes feel awkward on the bag and OK on pads. Sparring they seem pretty protective since they're well-padded. I know Cleto Reyes's pro fight gloves have the reputation of being a puncher’s glove, but the training gloves have pretty thick padding.

    I have a love-hate relationship with these gloves. When I use the TU DAs, I don’t particularly miss my Reyes, but when I’ve gone a few rounds with the Reyes, I can’t imagine not having them. It’s strange. In the case of past relationships I’ve been in, I’ve learned that this is probably a sign that this relationship is toxic, but I digress…

    In any case, as I’m not currently wearing the Reyes as I type this, I am somewhat ambivalent towards them. I think they typically sell for $160 in the US. I don’t know if I’d buy again. Pretty sure I wouldn't unless they were cheap, but then they might have defects. eh. They are decent gloves and, for me, probably have a life span of maybe 9 months total. I’m going to keep using this pair until they’re thoroughly dead. So I’ll update when that happens.

    TL;DR: Gloves are decent. I suppose time will tell, but they are already starting to break down padding-wise after ~5/6 months. Awful break-in process, but feel pretty good after break-in. I don’t know if they’re worth it. Probably won’t buy again, but enjoyed my time with them (will remember them fondly as I use my 'soul mate' type gloves which I guess I haven't found yet). I'm not going to rate each category with numbers because I'm too lazy. But overall, probably a 7/10, which is a passing grade. Definitely not the worst gloves I've tried. But not my favorite, though I don't dislike them.

    Here are pictures (apologies for the bad lighting):

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  2. Ryyonvin Orange Belt

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    Great review - Crazy how short you've had them before the padding started falling out. Do you have a picture showing the area where this is happening? I bought a pair of the 10oz safetecs and love them so far. Thankfully they already came broken in.
     
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    Hmm, I can try and take a picture of the foam bits coming out and where they're exiting the glove (they're also covering the floor around the heavy bag), but I can only feel the place where the foam is breaking because the liner is still solid. I'll post pictures later today.

    I think the problem with padding might be unique to only a few people. People who have tried some other gloves that I've tried have not had these issues over a similar duration. So I don't know. Might want to take my problems with a grain of salt.
     
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    I have the exact same pair. Someone on eBay was selling them for about $100~ and I had about $50 left over from previous sales, so I spent about $50 on them, which I think was an absolute steal. I use them for sparring (though take them out to hit the bag every so often, then hit them hard with some leather ointment) and I love the balance/feel of my pair. Punching with them feels lighter and more snappy than with any other glove I've tried.

    They were pretty soft and supple when I first got them and fit incredibly well, especially in comparison to the 12oz hook and loops that took about a month to break in that I previously used as my bag gloves (I've since sold them) and they seem to be holding up okay, but I don't use them that often since I stopped sparring frequently. To be honest I wonder if I got a knockoff pair, but everything about them seemed to ring true when I got them. They were in the shrink wrap (though obviously opened), he kept the original card for caring for them, and the leather strongly resembled the texture of the Reyes headgear I got from Title, but both of those products felt different than the black 12oz velcros I also bought from Title, so I guess time will tell.
     
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    That is a steal. They sound legit.
     
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    Okay, so I tried to take pictures of the interior to highlight some of the things I mentioned above.

    Exhibit A: So here is the place where pieces of foam are constantly coming out of the glove between the cuff and the backhand part. There does, in fact, appear to be a tiny hole in the seam.
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    Exhibit B: Here is the interior. I took two pictures to highlight the indent in the foam. So if I pull the liner so that it straightens out this is what the glove looks like (you can still kind of see where the foam creases):
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    Now please direct your attention to exhibit C, where I pushed the liner into the crease that exists where the knuckle part is (there is a deep crease in the foam where the padding has broken down). I have used my skills to circle the relevant area in red in both photos:

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    That said, I don't really feel the creases when I wear punch with the gloves on. So it doesn't pose so great a problem.
     
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    So based on your experience which gloves would you rate as:

    Best durability
    Best comfort
    Best response on bag/mitts
    Best sparring
    Best overall

    ??

    Also, have you ever tried Casanova gloves? I read they were tanks when it came to durability.
     
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    I loved Reyes (ever since Manny started to wear them) and was so excited to get a pair but as you said the they often have defects 2 out of the three pairs I have owned have had defects, one even had split padding straight off the bat (which Reyes replaced). The break in period is horrible and the gloves feel like they're trying to snap your thumb off. I just can't recommend Reyes for training gloves anymore. They were the reason I tried Fairtex, but while Fairtex work for me for others they don't. Gloves are a tricky business.
     
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    I think this is difficult because people have different experiences/preferences with gloves.

    So with that as a caveat: the most durable padding-wise I'd say are the Zeus gloves so far (minus the liner tearing; hopefully, I'll have an update when I receive my gloves soon). Most comfortable, probably the TU Death Adders (except the finger compartment could be longer, but they fit snug like fight gloves). I'd say the Death Adders also probably have been the most fun to hit the bag/mitts with. But I might just be saying that because I've been using them recently... I'll probably do a review of the TU DAs. I have been rotating them with the Reyes for about the same amount of time and they have been holding up well. There are some negatives, but they are definitely worth the price, in my opinion. I got a bad ingrown fingernail from a poorly thrown left hook, but apart from that, they have been fine. I tend to judge sparring gloves more on the basis of how my sparring partner feels. As a result, anything with relatively decent padding. I'm planning on using my Winning gloves soon for sparring... (Can't bring myself to do it, though. So damn expensive.)

    Best overall: I don't know, man. I suppose for me it comes down to gloves that I don't like and gloves that I don't mind. I enjoy most gloves once they are broken in, but a lot of them don't last very long in that state. So any glove that lasts long and is not crazy expensive works for me...

    Also, I have not tried Casanova gloves.
     
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    Indeed. Which Fairtex model works for you?
     
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    Honestly I love the BGV9's I've got them in 16oz but I'm gunna see if I can get some 12oz ones as well. For me they are just a perfect fit and comfortable. I've got the BGV6 sparring gloves too but they have a strange feeling that hurts my already damaged knuckle (Possibly just need to be broken in more).
     
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    I'm not sure you would like the Casanova simply because they have a wide pocket, similar to Reyes. But overall I like Casanova.
     
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    Wide pocket is not a deal breaker for me, just a minor matter of preference. I hope to try Casanovas one day...
     
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    @hangulmalmotayo - Do you think you would consider taking to gloves to a seamstress to have the hole in the liner fixed? Or are you pretty set on just moving on from them?
     
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    Which gloves? The Zeus?

    I've already listed them for auction so it's too late to do anything different. Also, I have two additional Zeus pairs that are supposed to be on the way, so it's not much of a loss, to be honest. Really, I'd probably only consider getting a pair of good gloves repaired if they were (a) no longer made or (b) ridiculously expensive.
     
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    Oh no I was referring to the Reyes gloves you posted in the pictures.
     
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    Oops, my bad.

    Well, the main issue is that the padding is disintegrating. I don't really care that little bits of padding are coming out (and, it seems, that they are not even coming out from a torn seam; they're coming through an already-existing opening in the seam between the cuff and backhand part). If the particles of padding didn't fall out, they'd just be collecting at awkward points inside the glove which would be equally bad if not worse than what is currently going on.

    All that to say, no. I wouldn't take them to get them fixed because it would probably cost a lot more than I'm willing to invest in these gloves.
     
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    Hangulmalmotayo, from your experience using different gloves, which gloves made an awesome pop sound on the heavy bag? I'm going to guess the Cleto Reyes.
     
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    Hmmm, that's a good question. To be honest, I haven't really been paying much attention to the pop sound. I suppose I was a bit underwhelmed with the Reyes based on what everyone said about their pop. Might be the fact that they changed the model a bit.

    Although, they do make a pretty loud pop. I just don't really get the feedback I'd expect from the sound.

    I know it seems like I'm excessively promoting the TU DAs and that's not really my intention, but they do have great feedback on the bag.
     
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    Yep the TU DAs are really nice on the bag.
     
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