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Discussion in 'Muay Thai and Kickboxing' started by Shadess, Apr 24, 2016.
did you even read what you quoted.
I'm fairly certain you brought it up first.
I stated that Urabe was irrelevant because I only needed to believe that Umeno was better than Noiri (whom I have seen). Urabe could still be in that top 2 for all I care. How does this make me a troll.
No, he did. It was in his initial post about Umeno being a fraud. Noiri-Yamato was a perfectly acceptable example to show his inconsistency. He essentially calls Umeno a quitter for leaving kickboxing, but Noiri was one and done with muay thai and apparently that's all good.
No, you did bring up Noiri-Yamato in post #1545 before he said Umeno is a fraud, which was just a response to what you said.
I don't think anyone was claiming Noiri was the best Japanese Muay Thai fighter, so I don't see the relevancy in bringing up that argument.
Oh I get it. He said "striker". Of course, that would HAVE to be a Muay Thai guy...
0-1 in Muay Thai. Noiri is definitely not top 1000 striker material.
My first first post brought up the Noiri-Yamato fight, but what you're claiming, cannot be found in that post.
1. I brought up Noiri-Yamato as a way to understand how he could justify saying Noiri is a better striker than Yamato. My argument was Umeno is better than Yamato, therefore Umeno > Noiri
2. He responded by calling Umeno a fraud and pointed out how he quit kickboxing to go do Muay Thai
3. I responded by saying that's no different than Noiri losing to Yamato and going back to where he is better
I can't believe Umeno is better than Noiri?
He's now calling me a sociopath for supposedly failing to see that his comments on Umeno were facetious. Who calls a fighter a fraud and goes into detail about why that's the case? By that rule and his own standards I guess I can just backtrack anything and y'all would be credulous to believe me... Hmm... Oh, the irony is flowing.
I can (I do) admit when I'm a dick/jerk, but unfortunately others can't own their klutziness.
Alright, I'm done here. Sorry for having a harmless, little opinion. *shrugs*
Dude nobody cares that you think Umeno is better, your line of reasoning doesn't make sense though. You used MMAth, c'mon...
And nobody called you a sociopath. If anything you're just convoluting the discussion.
Fuck outta here
You guys gotta chill lol
watched the whole krush 85 today, pretty good event with some cool upsets
what is the next moves K1-Krsuh haves to Aoshi and Gonnapar?
i think rizin should pick Ozawa and match him to fight Tenshin since the takeru fight isnt going to work to be made
Ozawa is pretty famous, at least based on the numbers of youtube views of his fights since the Takeru feud,i dont understand a word in japanese but he seems to be a guy who promotes himself well as the bad guy.
Not trying to take sides here, but to clarify the situation Karaev's "fraud" post was an ad extremum play on the idea of discrediting a fighter based on one win in an unfamiliar ruleset, rather than him actually thinking Umeno is a fraud. I can see how that could be hard to discern though as we are talking in text which is not the best for conveying sarcasm.
is this pure marketing or will Takeru be using excessive, unnecessary movement, sloppy kicks and the "switch cross" in his next K-1 bout?
Maybe you haven't heard about a little thing called Neo Footwork? It's a game changer...
Didn't that guy Chadd "Shark" Collins just did the same against Seksan? (maybe it was at 140 pounds and you're not counting?)
Kulabdam knocked out Genji. Not a shocking result, Genji's defence is a bit lax at times, he's been dropped a number of times in his fights and Kulabdam is a ruthless finisher with a ton of ko's on his record.
Edit: rip the video got taken down
- Had to cut down to 122lbs
- exhausted from weigth cut, barely ate the last 5-6 days
- was confused about the break ups, whenever Tenshin wanted a break
- special one knee clinch rule for this fight
- took fight because of the good money
I wonder how many other KO fights have these little conditions attached to them...
Aside from the break ups, the rest are kind of just a bunch of excuses. Tenshin was just better that night.