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Discussion in 'Muay Thai and Kickboxing' started by Shadess, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. ichibang Brown Belt

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    Knockout Vol 2 spoiler

    Jaowehar rallied from behind to beat Kenta by cut
    Rotlek got cut by a headbut but took the fight to the clinch and outelbowed/kneed and beat Umeno by majority decision
     
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    What was the rotlek/genji fight like?
     
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    Interesting, the only knockout fight I've seen they didn't seem to allow clinching. Are all the fights supposed to be contested under the same rules?
     
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    Is knockout what you call "japanese kickboxing" (not K-1 style) which includes elbows, or just muay thai?
     
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    Knockout is Japanse kickboxing.
    Japanese kickboxing is basically muay thai without wai kru and thai scoring system/gambling.
    In Japanese kickboxing organisation, you basically see fighters divided into two types
    1. The types that wear mongkol and receive blessing from their trainers like a Thai (and would regularly
    fight in muay thai events). These consider themselves a muay thai fighter like Genji Umeno.
    2. The types that do not follow muay thai customs but fight in full Thai rule fight. These consider themselves a kickboxer like Satoshi Kobayashi and also I think Riki Onodera, the promoter of this event.
    There are basically two sides to the history of Japanese kickboxing, the Thai would say that Japanese kickboxing is a muay thai clone while the Japanese would say it is their own creation. The rivalry between the two styles is mostly domestic because kickboxing outside Japan has all followed K-1 rule.

    Knockout doesn't really allow that much clinching but Umeno just could not stop Rotlek from engaging
    in close-ranged fight with him after the ref broke the clinch off, so he kept getting kneed/elbowed.
     
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    Krush tonight on Abema in 4 hours or so

    (55kg fight) Rasuta vs Takaaki
    (63kg fight) Taito vs Aotsu Junpei
    (60kg championship tournament SF1) Gosyu Masanobu vs Anpo Riku
    (60kg championship tournament SF2) Leona Pettas vs Asahisa Taio
    (58kg fight) Elias Mahmoudi vs Saikyo Haruma
    (65kg fight) Soda Yasuomi vs Matsushita Daiki
    (67kg fight) Watabe Daiki vs Yamagiwa Kazuki
    (50kg fight) Mellony Geugjes vs Momi
    (65kg championship tournament final) Komiya Yukihiro vs Nakazawa Jun

    Solid, if uninspiring card. Elias vs. Saikyo should be a barnburner. I'll be tuning in mostly to see the continuation of the 60kg tournament. Predict Anpo Riku beats Gosyu and Leona beats Asahisa.

    Incidentally, Anpo Riku (who's the brother of Rukiya) had one of the silliest/most epic matches of the year vs Yamamoto Masahiro

     
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    Issei Wor. Wanchai also fought on that Knockout event and won.

     
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    What is the deal with Exindecon gym. It seems to be Japanese, but didnt Newlukrak also take it as his fight name for a while. Do they have a sister gym in thailand.
     
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    thank you, that's very insightful. I kept seeing KNOCKOUT referred as full thai rules but from what I've seen there's not much clinching and the pace of the fights are completely different. I also could not tell whether what I thought was elbow strikes were elbows indeed. now looking forward to seeing Umeno vs. Rotlek - with Rotlek's style there will probably be some cut clear elbows to see.
     
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    It's always like that with Kickboxing in Japan like when AJKF was still around the Japanese fighters have a different style and pace.
     
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    FYI for @Shadess in case you haven't come across this. Krush 77 on July 16th is gonna be a China vs Japan event. Looks like they're partnering with GoH. 6 fights. Though matchup hasn't been finalized yet, they announced a roster of confirmed fighters

    China
    - Qiu Jiang Liang
    - Tie Yinghua
    - Deng Zeqi
    - Yun Qi

    Japan
    - Urabe Hirotaka
    - HIROYA
    - Komiyama Kosuke
    - Uehara Makoto

    Japan needs to step up their roster if they wanna win this with QJL and Zeqi in the mix. Time to go grab Noiri.
     
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    Tie Yinghua vs Hiroya would be fun.
     
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    Some additions to the K-1 Japan June 18th card

    (Superfight 60kg) Taiga vs Koji
    (Superfight 57.5kg) Ozawa Kaito vs Saikyo Haruma
    (Reserve fight 70kg) Yamazaki Yoichi vs. Makino Tomoaki

    (Prelim 70kg) Uchiyama Masato vs. Jinbo Katsuya
    (Prelim 60kg) Takeuchi Yuki vs. Tabata Ryo

    I have a feeling Saikyo Haruma is going to upset Ozawa and make him look silly. He's riding some great momentum after his win over Elias and his 30 second KO.

    Taiga should annihilate Koji. Looking forward more to the pre-fight trash talk than the actual fight for this one.
     
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    Looks like Koji had fun.

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    max, top king,yod muay, true 4u all have a different pace than lumpinee and rajadamneran. Does that make those organizations japenese kickboxing and not muaythai? Should lion fight should change its name to japanese kickboxing as well since it resembles nothing like stadium muaythai? Is all international muaythai actually japanese kickboxing since they do not follow most thai customs and the scoring is not dictated by gambling?
     
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    Right. Thanks for reminding me why people don't post here anymore.
     
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    maybe you could go and ask them to change it for us.
     
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