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oyvindt said:
wlf rules you can't throw two consecutive...well anything...kicks or punches and god forbids knees...
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Do you actually understand what two consecutive shots of anything means? So you're saying he cant throw 2 punches in a row? (so no combinations) 2 kicks in a row? That makes no sense and cannot work in any fight unless the ref has the mind of a computer and stops the fight every few seconds. You're over exaggerating. They might rob sittichai if he doesn't get the ko but to say you cant throw two consecutive shots of anything is ridiculous.
 
"Want the one million or the victory?"
-Random Wu Lin Feng fan on Sitthichai's options
 
Julius_Caesar said:
Why not?
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Because obviously he wouldnt enter in a fight against a guy who is known for receiving multiple robberies decisions and some fake fights under his belt

WLF could buy Buakaw to lose and obey the WLF "rules at contract" against Yi long, so they can do it 10x more easily with Sitthichai

this fight already haves a winner,ridiculous as it looks
 
Julius_Caesar said:
Do you actually understand what two consecutive shots of anything means? So you're saying he cant throw 2 punches in a row? (so no combinations) 2 kicks in a row? That makes no sense and cannot work in any fight unless the ref has the mind of a computer and stops the fight every few seconds. You're over exaggerating. They might rob sittichai if he doesn't get the ko but to say you cant throw two consecutive shots of anything is ridiculous.
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of course i'm exagerating....but it's true they can't clinch or use knees in two consecutive shots also...buakaw got 2 points penalty for 1 combination of knees/punches that almost ko yi long if the ref didn't stop it in time,how would you call it?yes ridiculous.

it might not be a rule,they might not stop the fight every 2 seconds but the very moment it's dangerous for yi long the fight will be stopped.
 
Mafanofe said:
WLF could buy Buakaw to lose and obey the WLF "rules at contract" against Yi long, so they can do it 10x more easily with Sitthichai
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Well I guess buakaw owes them money because he won clearly. Not on paper but in the eyes of everyone who watched the fight.
 
Julius_Caesar said:
Well I guess buakaw owes them money because he won clearly. Not on paper but in the eyes of everyone who watched the fight.
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why buakaw would owe them money when were they who tried desperately to bring him to their org instead of Kunlun and make everything they could to offer a big purse to Buakaw agree a fight( the he knew he would loose the 2nd to set a triology)?

he easily won both fight especially the second,but the referee,the not explicit point deductions,referee Savings when Yi long was in trouble and finally the irreversible decision of the judges.

the logic about it explains why Sitthichai is going to be robbed and much probably sitsongpeenong knows it,because everyone knows,it happened so many times before and it isnt going to be different now.


it is just a suicide on Shitting the own image with the two organizations where he is important, to get in a fight that everyone already knows who will win and why.

there is a reason why all Yi Long fights are on WLF or at collab´s with other close orgs,he is a
highly profitable marketing product, this is not about a sport, it is business,who sign the book to fight against him in the 98% of the cases are really low level fighters like "Nkata", " Paul", "Mike"
"Jackson", "David Brown", " Jason Ganstantin", " Kim Khan Zaki", and all these other guys that they feed him with because they are so bad that he have no problem in knocking them out
 
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Julius_Caesar said:
You said:

And im saying if they paid buakaw to lose how come he was fighting like he was trying to win?
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this is not about winning the fight Theorically (being the better fighter who produces more damage in most of the rounds),but in the pratice.

Buakaw won the fight,fought to win but his offense was limitated by the "rules",Biased referee saving yi long when he was in difficult and every other things that happened,when you dont knock Yi long out( no matter if you actually cant do it despite messing him up or blocked by underground Contracts), He wins a unanimous decision,it happened multiple times.

WLF could( and much probably made it) Buy buakaw to lose not because Buakaw Owes them,but because they pay a lot,and Buakaw Image and giantic fanbase can be fooled with a half assed backstage "cry of the national hero", so it is easy money while near to none danger.

-Pique knoced him down and won all the rounds,they just dont gave a fuck about the knockdown and act like nothing happened...Yi long by UD

http://video.genfb.com/1318881291468068
 
Julius_Caesar said:
Well I guess buakaw owes them money because he won clearly. Not on paper but in the eyes of everyone who watched the fight.
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If he won clearly Yi Long would have been knocked out.

You accept a fight against the Monk and you accept to get fucked. Hopefully with substantial financial reward.

Buakaw was gonna get his licks in regardless. Similar to Andre Dida, punish the body and make them feel it for days. In this instance he collects a check and takes an L.
 
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the original contract was:
1)first fight wlf with international judges
2)second fight in kunlun with international judges and "mma" rules (if you remember yi long showed up on kunlun ring to challenge buakaw and kunlun bosses announced the fight,"mma rules" were not real mma just free rules for both,it was yi long who asked for these rules to prove shaolin >>>mt, yi long was also a host at supermuaythai announcing again the fight)

wlf breached the contract because they didn't allowed yi long to fight for kunlun anymore so the fight was "postponed",in fact buakaw who had fully recovered and was training full time from the second half of last year took a couple of chinese fighters and instead of yi long he did dylan salvador.

then they were talking about a "new promotion" super partes for both to have a "fair fight" but that idea died soon after as wlf turn down that idea as well.

kunlun/j tv must have renegotiated the contract with wlf and sold the fight back to henan tv, buakaw's team was not happy in fact at the "yi long victory after party" that was booked a week before...wlf boss was partying with kunlun boss like they just accomplished the best deal....yi long was there with his wife at the same table with them,while buakaw stormed off the arena pissed as fuck.

the second fight was real but the contract had tons of limitations he accepted for tons of $$.
yi long among other things was if i remember well 2,3 kg overweigh as he couldn't cut weight anymore,buakaw was paid more again to accept the weight difference...

short version:
they knew they were gonna get robbed BUT buakaw didn't fake fight.
buakaw team played it very well,it backfired wlf in ways they didn't calculated but at the end kunlun got $$ to sell the fight back to wlf/henan tv, buakaw got $$ to accept a new contract that limited him, henan tv got the rating they needed.
all happy.
 
speaking about....buakaw will fight yet another chinese "sanda champion who gave a hard time to kulebin in wlf therefore has a high chance to ko buakaw"....aka another nobody no one gives a shit about, even less his own connationals.

at this point it's kunlun the problem and their marketing is beyond obtuse and plain stupid. how can they be such morons?i don't get it.

Feng Jieis the guy
 
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I don't know, seems like an okay fight. Other than the semi-retired and AFAIK rich Cai Liangchan there aren't many Chinese fighters out there for him. Buakaw is a weird entity outside the 70kg tournament realm. They probably shouldn't cannibalize the Kiria's or whoevers from the tournament either.

After that you're more or less left with some legends kinda fights with Petro, Souwer, Kraus type guys. Or, some Sanda credentialed dudes and at least you keep dispelling that traditional nonsense. +If one of them somehow happened to beat Buakaw at least it's happening on Kunlun and they'd probably gain some favour with the Sanda gang.

Right now Petro would be injured, booked and in general hard to get. Kraus looked terribad in his last Kunlun fight so please not that. Buakaw vs. Souwer on the Dec 31st event (if still happening...) would be a nice one though.
 
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it should be an ok fight but chinese don't want to see buakaw vs another chinese...there are plenty of young or lesser known fighters out there...ppl want to see buakaw vs a western fighter and under mt,a rematch with khayal...or even ok fighters like kuliaba would be enough not to bore ppl to death.

Cai seems to be legit rich but who really knows....he's very weak under kb and very unpleasant to watch,it's clear kb is not his cup of tea...i don't think he trained anymore after re-retiring?don't know...

a sauwer fight could be sweet tbh but not sure about that as well.

also...the chinese guy is way smaller than him...he doesn't fight at 70. i don't like this at all.
 
Don't remember who he fought but I quite liked Cai's kb flow in Kunlun. He retired, but recently had some random fight somewhere so who knows what his deal is.

Think we're getting Steven Banks vs. Asihati IV and none of those have been any good so might as well give us Buakaw-Souwer IV!
 
Shadess said:
Don't remember who he fought but I quite liked Cai's kb flow in Kunlun. He retired, but recently had some random fight somewhere so who knows what his deal is.

Think we're getting Steven Banks vs. Asihati IV and none of those have been any good so might as well give us Buakaw-Souwer IV!
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he fought a guy from banchamek gym who usually loses every time lol.
i thought he was horrible!
 
Well, now they got some Niu Zhiqiang listed as fighting Buakaw. Seems to have Sanda creds, better/worse idk.
 
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