Reasons for Cowboy's downfall

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  1. SexyBaroni Green Belt

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    1-Is taking too many fight too often.

    If we look at his career, he's figthing very often, a lot of times only 2-3 months between fights,
    which is absolutely not enough to recover fully after wars.

    F.E. after being KTFO by Jorge he took 6 months and came back to put a great performance against Robbie.

    But after such a war, he took less than 3 months to recover and go through camp, which is very little.
    He should have taken 1-2 months completely off to heal. And then time to adjust and camp.

    He needs to fight 3 times a yeat max and take recoery seriously.

    2- Lack of boxing.

    Yes he improved in that area, but still eats too many shots, FE against Jorge and Robbie,
    which , in addition to taking fights too often leads to brain damage and being chinny,
    which Till well exploited.

    He needs to focus on boxing fundamentals and defence.

    3- Weight class?

    Cerrone is a small WW, but cutting down to 155 again, would make his weak liver and chin even weaker.

    He could benefit from 165 LB weight class and stricter weight cutting policy, where Huge WW
    would have to go up to 175 ir even 185.

    P.S. Still a Cowboy fan.

    P.P.S By downfall i mean three losses in a row, with two of them being finishes.
    Nothing like that happenned to him before.

    Discuss

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    Yeah and i forgot beer, lol.

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    Reasons you mentioned, +stylistic match ups. When you look at his LW+WW wins, he hasn't really fought many quality range boxers

    What are the common strengths of Nate, Masvidal, and Till..
     
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    - Jet lag also could have been a small factor contributing to last loss
    - Not watching the damn tape and being all proud about it.
    - Father time

    Still - war Cowboy!
     
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    he doesn't look at film of his opponent or formulate a gameplan, basically goes in there and wings it.
     
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    How about RDA, Pettis and Bendo?
     
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    Didn't he lose to RDA and Pettis, had very close fights with Bendo?
     
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    What are people crying about? Cerrone has been around the block in terms of hours logged. He's not a young upncomer Any longer
     
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    I don't think it is a downfall i think Cowboy is a good fighter but not a great fighter, he never has been. He's always been persistent but when faced with real quality he get's dominated pretty badly. People like Dos Anjos, Masvidal and Till ( who i had winning the fight before hand ) all have dangerous tools to put Cowboy away.

    Look he's had some great wins along the way i think he can hold his head high. i certainly wouldn't like to see him walk away because if he fights i will always watch him for sure.
     
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    He fought a guy with better stand up without a gameplan.
     
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    Didn’t he take some shrooms in Poland?
     
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    Lost to Masvidal, a very solid boxer, crafty vet and clearly very improved to the point he may be a legit top 5. Lost to former champ Lawler, who defended quite a few times, very powerful and skilled striker and long time vet. Lost to Till, young prospect with good striking, speed, power, accuracy, etc, who also had a big size advantage in every way and has all the potential in the world.

    Hardly a ‘downfall’. He’s fighting great opponents, not bums. Masvidal and Till were truly just bad match ups for him and he was very competitive with Lawler, many believe he actually won that’s fight. Not saying he isn’t going on the decline now (we don’t really know yet), just that losing to this level of competition is not a very good way to come to that conclusion.
     
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    His boxing (especially defensively) is not very good and that's why he's been knocked out twice in the last 3 fights. He's good when you give him space or he is able to dictate the pace and pushes you backwards, however he is very vulnerable when you get right in front of him in boxing range and start throwing punches at him. You'd think he would have swapped some of his regular training and started working with a good quality boxing coach but I'm not sure if that's happened.

    Edit: I'll add that he's a skilled striker himself who is very good at catching people when they step within his range of kicks and punches and is also very good at disguising the kicks he uses, but I'm pointing out that he's deficient in certain areas. He's a good fighter but matches up badly against certain opponents. He's also very talented on the ground.
     
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    He needs to change his camp.

    His boxing is a glaring weakness


    That team is great, and i mean great at developing gameplans. It's a great camp for grappling with emphasis on top control and mma. Not a good boxing camo.

    His boxing is really his only weakness I see, and it's a big one.

    He defineret needs to take some time and really bulk up to fight at 170. He had a nice streak of wins, but now that he stepped up in competition he's lost 3 in a row, two by knockout in a round. That is no good.
     
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    All those miles are gonna catch up at some point. He looked old to me. Lots of discussion about his lack of boxing skills, especially his lack of head movement, but Cowboy is also notoriously stubborn when it comes to be coached...kind of does it his way. Plus, he's also a known slow starter...Till was smart to come at him hard from the get go...I think lack of size at WW caught up to Cowboy in this fight as well, Till is fucking huge, young, etc.
     
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    He kinda had the right gameplan in trying to take him down but he just couldn't
     
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    He's 34 and has had alot of fights. He's starting to slow down.
     
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