Real question, pornstars, and Playboy models, do you believe Trump never had an aborted baby?

She chose to have sex. That was the act of consent you reference.

If I choose to have sex with a girl, she can't move in. That isn't how property rights work, and you can't even legally sell the rights to your whole person. Slavery is illegal. Control of your body, is the definition of slavery. State owned slavery as the court appointed actor for your cute little baby, if you will.

What on earth are you talking about? She chose to have sex knowing that's how babies are made. She made a baby, realized she doesnt want it... at what point did the human life become property?
 
The pro-abortion ideology is a very inconsistent one.

It's just a scattershot of ex-post-facto justifications.

Yup, when I asked what the difference was he finally admitted straight up he was down with baby killing because they are actually property aka slaves. I'm blown away.
 
What on earth are you talking about? She chose to have sex knowing that's how babies are made. She made a baby, realized she doesnt want it... at what point did the human life become property?

Her body is her property. Who the fuck are you to keep her from evicting someone from her property?

It isn't her fault the baby can't live without her womb.
 
She chose to have sex. That was the act of consent you reference.
Sex is a big persons game that makes real people.

Having a baby is a very real potential outcome of having sex.

It's not the baby's fault that the mother and father wanted to have sex and it resulted in a pregnancy. Talk about victim blaming.
 
I disagree. There is a large % of his support that is Evangelical christian. It isn't that they don't care, it is that they don't believe it. Their pastor told them Trump is a good Christian, and they listen.
That's why his lies are so dangerous. Just like he claimed that he was never advised of the Russian meddling. That is obviously a lie. Some will say they don't care because he's getting the job done. In reality there are some who take his tweets and gas lighting, because it's also his staff that go out and disseminate the same narrative in the media, as the truth and are supporting him for who knows how many conspiracy theories they have going to excuse their behavior.
 
Her body is her property. Who the fuck are you to keep her from evicting someone from her property?

It isn't her fault the baby can't live without her womb.

She already made the choice and created a human. Too late at that point bro. You can't evict somebody by cutting off their arms and legs and sucking them out through a straw
 
Sex is a big persons game that makes real people.

Having a baby is a very real potential outcome of having sex.

It's not the baby's fault that the mother and father wanted to have sex and it resulted in a pregnancy. Talk about victim blaming.

Naw, you just want to let a welfare rats stay rent free on someone's property comrade.
 
She already made the choice and created a human. Too late at that point bro. You can't evict somebody by cutting off their arms and legs and sucking them out through a straw
Naw, but they sure as fuck will shoot your ass.

Here is the solution. We give the cops the vacuum. Order the baby to exit, and boom, they should have just complied I guess. Baby looked like it had a gun.
 
Yup, when I asked what the difference was he finally admitted straight up he was down with baby killing because they are actually property aka slaves. I'm blown away.

This is an interesting case to study.

Viva has argued himself into a contradictory position. Because he's desperate to save face, and won't admit error, he's arguing himself deeper into this incorrect and contradictory position.
 
This is an interesting case to study.

Viva has argued himself into a contradictory position. Because he's desperate to save face, and won't admit error, he's arguing himself deeper into this incorrect and contradictory position.

Quote me. I'm here.
 
Naw, but they sure as fuck will shoot your ass.

Here is the solution. We give the cops the vacuum. Order the baby to exit, and boom, they should have just complied I guess. Baby looked like it had a gun.

I'm not on board with calling a baby in the womb a trespasser. I'm also not on board with calling human lives property, including my own.

You're down with calling babies property and killing them. You've shown your hand in the clearest way possible. This isn't a gap we can close via debate. I dont say this often around here because it seems to mean so little. But I've lost all respect for you. I figured you'd rationalize it as not a human being or something, not straight up admit you're cool with killing innocent human lives becaus the mom was too damn stupid to know babies come from sex
 
This is an interesting case to study.

Viva has argued himself into a contradictory position. Because he's desperate to save face, and won't admit error, he's arguing himself deeper into this incorrect and contradictory position.
When I say that we must protect the ownership of one's own body, at least I admit that means killing babies.

When you say we must protect the baby, what you are also saying is that we must trespass on the only property anyone can claim true ownership over.

Here is where he is both cool with killing babies, and calls people property... oof
 
I'm not on board with calling a baby in the womb a trespasser. I'm also not on board with calling human lives property, including my own.

You're down with calling babies property and killing them. You've shown your hand in the clearest way possible. This isn't a gap we can close via debate. I dont say this often around here because it seems to mean so little. But I've lost all respect for you. I figured you'd rationalize it as not a human being or something, not straight up admit you're cool with killing innocent human lives becaus the mom was too damn stupid to know babies come from sex

LoL.

Your obtuse.
 
I also do not feel that it matters one way or the other. I know what you're trying to do, catch right-wingers in a contradiction, but you should know that that doesn't matter either...

Right-wingers are just like left-wingers, all they care about is winning. No one really thinks socialism will work, but they're going to vote for it and they're going to hope that it is implemented because they want to win. (and they can't make anything for themselves, so they're hoping for it to come free) so why would anyone waste time with confronting you with information that would contradict you?
 
I also do not feel that it matters one way or the other. I know what you're trying to do, catch right-wingers in a contradiction, but you should know that that doesn't matter either...

Right-wingers are just like left-wingers, all they care about is winning. No one really thinks socialism will work, but they're going to vote for it and they're going to hope that it is implemented because they want to win. (and they can't make anything for themselves, so they're hoping for it to come free) so why would anyone waste time with confronting you with information that would contradict you?

Actually, I'm trying to shame evangelicals who are the main organized force behind the pro-life movement.
 
LoL.

Your obtuse.

I'm not wrong. You've said some crazy shit itt. Not sure I've heard anybody ever make the argument you made. Takes a real cold person to be down with innocent babies being killed because the mom simply doesnt want them.
 
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