I don't think you could ever name one for sure best band or artist in something like music, but objectively speaking I think you can make a list of GOATs. Longevity, consistency, multiple classics, creativity. If a band has those things, and i'm sure you can name others as well, gotta discuss them as all time greats.
Oh, Ring a Bell sounds like Jenny Death you say?
Well firstly Tim Hecker is as far from noise as one can get. As I expected you are woefully ignorant when it comes to noise music as most hardcore DG fans are. Once again, noise music for people don't like noise music. Tame. Of course the Books and Akufen (who isn't a they but a he, but you knew that right?) use samples differently but they still build records out of them. If your thought here is no one has sequenced samples the exact same way as DG did on Bottomless Pit then of course it is singular but so is every other sample based record. You could say the same about Tim Hecker's work there too, nobody has sequenced their samples like that. I guess he's a genius too?
I'll say something I already said in this thread, i'm not even going into a talk about genre, cause you're right I am woefully ignorant. I don't exactly care for genres.
Yes. In the face of facts, resort to insults.
I don't really think of noise as a genre but a sound. You can just simply say you don't like noise music which is fine. You keep saying that about me not knowing anything about sequencing and I don't know what you are getting out so perhaps you're correct. I can't get the albums straight cause they all sound alike.
Which insult did I use and which fact did you provide? Remember art is subjective.
When you decide to not be a childish clown and admit you were wrong about DG sounding the same, i'll start responding to you again. I'm not going to waste my time with someone is going to keep pretending he wasn't proven wrong. What I posted was, like I said, the equivalent to posting a rock song and a rap song. I mean hell.....if you simplify DG, thats actually exactly what those are.Which insult did I use and which fact did you provide? Remember art is subjective.
I don't really think I've acted like a childish clown, but again opinions. I still think DG sound the same a lot. I probably haven't listened to Bottomless Pit enough to give it a full critique though and maybe I did so in haste. I think what you're saying about them going for of a more hmm lets say black metalish sheen is there but to me the core is still very much noise that is the same for them and nihilism. Of course, they are the same band so it's kind of a stupid thing to complain about in the first place. My original post was merely to point out I think there are records that are better than AMSP this year, and a lot of them. I just listed some pop ones cause I think we were talking about like pitchfork, tmt, fact mag, stereogum lists which will cover that stuff. I would assume Radiohead will get high on some of the lists.
Fair, but I just need to point out one last time that this escalated stuff was never about opinion. I left the opinions out of it when I dropped the Chance and Bon Iver discussion. You can't hide behind "music is subjective" when the sound is completely different. You said their last 3 albums sound the same, yet I posted songs that don't sound even close to similar from all 3. And their are factual reasons for that which i've stated, same way their would be for rap and rock music. Just want you to understand that.
I mean there is a difference between sounding the same and being about the same thing, no? And again I don't want this to get hostile I'm just explaining my perspective. Using a guitar or a synth (just as an example) to make music about strawberry ice cream may sonically be different but the feel isn't...at least not to me, and I think that is where subjectivity comes into play.
OK well then now you are changing the entire subject. This was about sound the whole time, and now you're saying its about the feeling you get.
I think it was a bit of a failure to communicate what I meant (i am not always good at that) and just typing a lot quickly, but yes I am shifting the goalposts as they say.
what criteria do someone use. Criteria is the plural of criterion.
