Questionable Anderson Silva's dodging technique

[7th]

"Look Rashad is in matrix mode" - dumb Silva fans

 

[freaky]

He did not duck the kick. He ducked a feint jab which led to the kick. Since he's already ducked, if he comes back up he would get kicked. So he ducked further.

Also, go check out some Muay Thai fights. They drop all the way down on all 4 sometimes just to duck a kick. Extremely dangerous. I think it's more for show than anything. It's been done multiple times. But sometimes the kick is unavoidable if set up right like in that gif. Franklin set up his kick with a jab, Anderson decided to duck the jab instead of slipping which led him trapped with no other option but to lean even further down.

Only if opponent stands and does nothing. Imagine the balls Silva had to just ignore the fact if Frank could knee his head instead of kicking the air.

You obviously know nothing. Like I said, he ducked the jab, the next step is move the head back up dodging his knee. He ducked further down because Frank threw a head kick. It was a good kick/read by Frank. After a duck, the next step is to move back up so Frank read that and threw a kick but Anderson saw it and kept his head down. You can see Silva even looked away to protect himself from that kick.

It's not luck like you claimed. Anderson literally saw everything and dodged accordingly. It may be unorthodox but that's why he is so hard to read. Props to Frank for that feint jab>head kick. Would've gotten anyone but Silva was just too good.

Also, that's why he is so great. Who ducks a kick anyways? Well, Anderson Silva does and gets away with it!!

 

[LastingEffect]

He did not duck the kick. He ducked a feint jab which led to the kick. Since he's already ducked, if he comes back up he would get kicked. So he ducked further.

Also, go check out some Muay Thai fights. They drop all the way down on all 4 sometimes just to duck a kick. Extremely dangerous. I think it's more for show than anything. It's been done multiple times. But sometimes the kick is unavoidable if set up right like in that gif. Franklin set up his kick with a jab, Anderson decided to duck the jab instead of slipping which led him trapped with no other option but to lean even further down.



You obviously know nothing. Like I said, he ducked the jab, the next step is move the head back up dodging his knee. He ducked further down because Frank threw a head kick. It was a good kick/read by Frank. After a duck, the next step is to move back up so Frank read that and threw a kick but Anderson saw it and kept his head down. You can see Silva even looked away to protect himself from that kick.

It's not luck like you claimed. Anderson literally saw everything and dodged accordingly. It may be unorthodox but that's why he is so hard to read. Props to Frank for that feint jab>head kick. Would've gotten anyone but Silva was just too good.

Also, that's why he is so great. Who ducks a kick anyways? Well, Anderson Silva does and gets away with it!!

How about flying knee instead? Basically gave his head to Franklin.

 

[campbecc]

Whitaker did far from "everything" wrong defensively.

He did some unorhtodox things but to 90% he was a textbook on footwork and headmovement. He was no Roy Jones. People couldn't even touch him after he slowed down he fought for a while past his prime. He was a coke addict and was past his prime by the mid 90s yet he still had a fight with De LA Hoya that many feel he won and went the distance with prime Felix Trinidad.
he only ever got stopped in his last fight when he was really old and really shot and hadnt fought for 2 years.

Anderson doesn't do "everything" wrong either he does some things that you wouldn't teach but more than not he is one of the best schooled defensive fighters in the history of MMA. The reason he loses now is because he is 40, has taken a lot of hard shots throughout a long career and is fighting in the toughest MW division ever. Still his defense is pretty good compared to the average MMA striker.



You are a full grown retard. Seriously "luck"? If anything you are lucky that you haven't forgotten to breathe .....yet

Hyperbole. they both repeatedly did things that no instructor would teach you and would get a normal person knocked out.

 

[freaky]

How about flying knee instead? Basically gave his head to Franklin.

Like I said, normally he would b moving his head back already. He kept it down and lowered it because he saw the head kick coming. Otherwise, he would be moving his head back effectively dodging any knees or flying knee. For a flying knee, he would just move back even more. He would most likely rock back and counter with a hook or something KOing Frank because usually after a flying knee you'd be on top of the person. Way too close for comfort.

Also, He's already throwing a head kick. How you throw a knee after a head kick? Too slow. Prime Anderson saw everything coming from a mile away. We can say anything right now. What if Frank did this or did that. The answer would be Anderson would've saw it coming and dodge accordingly.

Of course the way he dodged certain attacks would've open him up for other attacks. This is true for all defenses against any attacks. That's why you throw feints to make them react then counter their defenses. Like I said, Frank's head kick was good but Anderson was better.

 

[LastingEffect]

Like I said, normally he would b moving his head back already. He kept it down and lowered it because he saw the head kick coming. Otherwise, he would be moving his head back effectively dodging any knees or flying knee. For a flying knee, he would just move back even more. He would most likely rock back and counter with a hook or something KOing Frank because usually after a flying knee you'd be on top of the person. Way too close for comfort.

Also, He's already throwing a head kick. How you throw a knee after a head kick? Too slow. Prime Anderson saw everything coming from a mile away. We can say anything right now. What if Frank did this or did that. The answer would be Anderson would've saw it coming and dodge accordingly.

It's really hard for me to see how he could have dodged a flying knee at that point. He bend towards Franklin and basically gave his head to him. You can write these "possibilities", but to certain point it becomes a fairy tail.

You do not dodge a kick or knee by leaning towards to it with your head. You will not protect your head by turning it to other side - you will just expose your back side of the head.

I believe Silva did whatever he wanted to do, that's it. Maybe he wanted to bait Rich by risking. By the way it's not Frank it's Franklin. His name is Rich.

Sakuraba, when he first time fought Wanderlei, did some similar dodging. He was on the ground and Silva was stomping his head to the ground. He actually managed to dodge few soccer kicks, but got kneed and basically KOed at the end.

Even though he managed to dodge some - that's just too risky technique and basically panicking man's move.

 

[Andre Xiong]

Rewatched some older Silva's fights and noticed that sometimes his dodging and moving from the punches looked a bit strange. A bit amateurish? No, that's not the word I am looking fall. His defense had holes?

For example Anderson Silva vs Rich Franklin. Silva ducked under the kick? I think that's quite dangerous - you can get kneed or basically head kicked. I have never seen that someone would duck a head kick by leaning forward.

I think if Franking would have proceeded to attack seriously (because here he is doing who knows what) he could have connected. Basically by moving forward and giving volume ignoring Silva's dance.

Weidman did something similar - multiple times ignored Silva's dodging dance by proceeding to hit the guy and at the end - won by KO.

So was this Silva's bad move, maybe people started believing the hype a bit too much, or maybe he just new that Franklin is shit at kicking or kneeing people?

this just translates roughly to:
for years at 185 and 205 pounds even, Anderson Silva was great, seemingly invincible both on defense and offense. now that he is old, out of prime, lost his belt, and old, I have waited 10 years and 15 fights to say, I was right all along and he was never that good.

 

[Squintz]

Rewatched some older Silva's fights and noticed that sometimes his dodging and moving from the punches looked a bit strange. A bit amateurish? No, that's not the word I am looking fall. His defense had holes?

For example Anderson Silva vs Rich Franklin. Silva ducked under the kick? I think that's quite dangerous - you can get kneed or basically head kicked. I have never seen that someone would duck a head kick by leaning forward.

I think if Franking would have proceeded to attack seriously (because here he is doing who knows what) he could have connected. Basically by moving forward and giving volume ignoring Silva's dance.

Weidman did something similar - multiple times ignored Silva's dodging dance by proceeding to hit the guy and at the end - won by KO.

So was this Silva's bad move, maybe people started believing the hype a bit too much, or maybe he just new that Franklin is shit at kicking or kneeing people?

I'll take what is distance for 500 Alex. Do you see how far Franklin is from Silva? How TF was he gonna land a knee from that position? Also, Silva could see that he was gonna kick before Rich even planned to throw that slow, half assed, powerless kick.

 

[LastingEffect]

this just translates roughly to:
for years at 185 and 205 pounds even, Anderson Silva was great, seemingly invincible both on defense and offense. now that he is old, out of prime, lost his belt, and old, I have waited 10 years and 15 fights to say, I was right all along and he was never that good.

I have never said he wasn't good. I am biggest Silva fan. We are analyzing one of his signature moves.

I liked how you just removed the .gif

 

[LastingEffect]

I'll take what is distance for 500 Alex. Do you see how far Franklin is from Silva? How TF was he gonna land a knee from that position? Also, Silva could see that he was gonna kick before Rich even planned to throw that slow, half assed, powerless kick.

Like this.


I agree, that Rich was really slow and basically was punching air. I believe Franklin is quite a great fighter. But he was so confused at that fight. Probably it gave Silva confidence to dance in front of him.

 

[Entram]

I really don't see technique in any of Silva's "matrix mode crap" He basicly rolled the dice and got lucky until he didn't anymore and got KO'd.

Yeah man, totally luck.

 

[brickhands]

silva avoidance was based on prediction he predicted right most times because most people fell into similar patterns weidman broke the pattern in the first fight if you watch the ko he throws left right and then a odd back handed right siva had predicted left and finished with the hook silva predicted wrong because the pattern was broken

and you will get this one you view the worlds as what it is a complex realm of patterns some people can hone in on those patterns be it fighting music mathematics or three legged japenese fart porn

 

[outlaw order]

Agree, Silva was dancing and Franklin was just in deep WTF

im confused? you say silva looked a bit amateurish with his movements but you agree that silva was smooth as butter and franklin was like holy shit i need to gtfo here?

 

[AndroidRage]

I am not judging him for doing it. But he showboated a lot with Weidman. I would even go to lengths to say that he knew he slowing down and to compensate for that he clowned even more.

So he knew he was slowing down and so to compensate for that he used even less defense? Makes perfect sense...... right? No not really.

 

[LikeItIs]

He clearly missed the boat on you being his coach.

 

[Paradigm]

Yeah man, totally luck.

IDGETKTFO convinced me...former LHW champ Forrest was a can and that performance was nothing special.

 

[LastingEffect]

im confused? you say silva looked a bit amateurish with his movements but you agree that silva was smooth as butter and franklin was like holy shit i need to gtfo here?

Silva was a beast, but he tried to duck a kick by leaning forward and left himself exposed to kicks and knees. We are discussing exactly that.

 

[LastingEffect]

So he knew he was slowing down and so to compensate for that he used even less defense? Makes perfect sense...... right? No not really.

That's called being in denial

 

[Ysgramor]

For example Anderson Silva vs Rich Franklin. Silva ducked under the kick? I think that's quite dangerous - you can get kneed or basically head kicked. I have never seen that someone would duck a head kick by leaning forward.

Seriously how can you write that nonsense and even post a gif of the action yourself? Did you not watch the gif?

Rich throws the kick, Silva ducks under it, Rich has his leg literally above Silva's shoulder..how in the world is Rich gonna knee him with one foot in the air?

Didn't read the rest.

 

[LastingEffect]

Seriously how can you write that nonsense and even post a gif of the action yourself? Did you not watch the gif?

Rich throws the kick, Silva ducks under it, Rich has his leg literally above Silva's shoulder..how in the world is Rich gonna knee him with one foot in the air?

Didn't read the rest.

Maybe flying knee is a bit similar to the kick?


You don't duck kicks by leaning forward to the kick with your head. We are discussing and you are just trying to sound smart by attacking without thinking.