Question for athletic doggers with knee issues

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    First I will set context:
    I am going to be 44 soon. I train in BJJ between 3 to 4 times a week consistently. We are Leglock friendly at our club, but we don't go crazy with it. I am also into HIIT bodyweight exercise somewhat. In the summer months I an into some extreme sports that are hard on the knees, namely Wakeboarding, but also skateboarding and BMX.

    I have been training JJ for 4.5 years now, and I have been lifting for about 3 years. I am lean and strong and my legs have always been a strong point for me. I've never had issues beside temporary JJ related injuries (Popped/Stretched LCL on both knees, once each) that have healed without any evident long term effects.

    Just recently I am feeling dull, constant aching inside my knee joints, and they just kinda feel loose.
    When I walk. When I relax my leg and flop it around. When I put load on it and turn. It feels like the joint as a whole is just becoming looser. I know there are a lot of different tendons and ligaments that hold it all together, but I can't imagine them all just starting to fail or wear out at the same time.

    So the question is, are there any ways to "tighten up" the knee joint with particular exercises?
     
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    Heavy squats. Do heavy squats.
     
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    Dude, please go see a doctor.
     
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    I have seen doctors. They say an am extremely fit and have nothing to worry about. But I can feel my knees are starting to loosen up.
     
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    Im 26 and in the same boat with my right knee. Tore my meniscus playing soccer. The other day I deadlifted 405 with no problems and then skipping rope and lateral movements started to hurt.

    Skipping but not laterally is great for rehabbing this sort of thing. Another good on is leg weights on machines. Go high rep low weight and try and build up the muscles around your knee more. Good luck.
     
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    I have really strong legs, but admittedly I don't do any specific exercises for them.
     
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    just give up the teenie sports and begin a serious lifting routine. accept the fact that you are not 18 anymore.
     
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    Squats. It may sound counter-intuitive at first, but squats will strengthen the joints in your knees.

    Also, it sounds like you have tendinitis of the knees. Wear these: [​IMG]

    They'll save your knees.
     
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    how much can you squat?
     
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    Serious question: what exactly are those. Looks like a special knee sleeves with some extra stuff on it
     
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    Brute Torq knee pads. You can buy them from Amazon. Cliff Keen and Venom also have their own brand of knee pads.
     
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    Yes but what makes them different from regular knee pads. I see there is some padding on it. Are they strictly for lifting
     
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    No, they're not for lifting. They're specifically designed for grappling/wrestling. Back when I played Jiujitsu, my knees were always raw from the constant squatting so I wore them to avoid the pain from scraping/banging them on the mat.
     
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    Tendinitis is possible, although I would expect a sports doctor to be able to catch that easily. If he's got a diagnosis there are actually specific exercises you can do for that other than just standard strength training. Eccentric emphasis training and controlled tempo stuff, some with slant boards depending on what tendon is actually having the issue. But I wouldn't bother until you get a diagnosis to back it up
     
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    I only do body weight squats, but single-leg (Pistol) style. I'm not a body builder.
     
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    I ask because you say you have strong legs

    you dont have to be a body builder to use weights
     
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    Those hurt my knee more than anything else. At one time I was working sets of 15 and my knee pain was unreal. It's STILL not 100% years later. Now I wear neoprene knee sleeves when I work out
     
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  18. miaou barely keeping it together

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    Then start strength training your legs following actual progressive overload.

    I.e. use external weight and gradually increase the weight over time.
     
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    I should get more specific. I don't squat because I am not trying to gain mass. I do use all four leg machines to develop clinch strength for jiu jitsu: Adductor, abductor, ham curl and quad extension, but I don't do high-weight at low reps for mass; I do medium weight at 10 reps and then hold for a ten count at the end of a set.
     
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    But with that being said: I am not consistent with leg day.

    I am consistent with bodyweight exercises via Jiu Jitsu class 2 to 4 times a week.
     
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