Question about Elliot...

Mid 30s. I don't really look at dudes as far as how good they look, but he did vaguely resemble Ryan Gosling, so the dude could easily get a girl if he didn't act so entitled and self-important.

And I could pinpoint exactly where he went wrong with people in general, not just women. Hand to God, I swear the guy NEVER asked anyone about their life. He'd walk up to you and tell you what he thought of some sports guy getting traded, even if he knew you had zero interest in sports. And he would drone on and on but not even a half-interested "How was your weekend?". Everything was about him.

Don't worry its a no homo and it sounds like he was an alright looking guy. It sounds like this guy has a frantic body language that is unsettling. Aside from his problem with you, the female coworker. Was he himself good at his job?
 
Don't worry its a no homo and it sounds like he was an alright looking guy. It sounds like this guy has a frantic body language that is unsettling. Aside from his problem with you, the female coworker. Was he himself good at his job?

Yeah, I'd say he was pretty good at it. Wasn't great, but he did have talent. I wouldn't say his body language was the issue, though - he just couldn't read people at all, or either didn't care to. Almost like he was stuck in his own head with no interest in anyone else, but at the same time expected everyone to be totally engrossed in him. Some might say Autism, but I really am not experienced enough with that field to say.
 
ELLIOTT: Hope all is well. Can you forward that file we talked about earlier? All the best.

@XalexinchainsX: Sure thing!!
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Yeah, I'd say he was pretty good at it. Wasn't great, but he did have talent. I wouldn't say his body language was the issue, though - he just couldn't read people at all, or either didn't care to. Almost like he was stuck in his own head with no interest in anyone else, but at the same time expected everyone to be totally engrossed in him. Some might say Autism, but I really am not experienced enough with that field to say.

Not to defend him but, one problem with guys like this is, they get compliments of how handsome they are and that they must do well with women. This creates a form of ego and expectation that if they are good looking then women should instantly be interested in them and when there not, it shatters their reality.

I assume your coworker and Elliot are like that. Elliot was a good looking guy and from the sound of it, so was your coworker. Thus he saw himself as a superior man and no need to develop a sense of humor/personality because of the compliments.

Thus over time, he became bitter that the end result of his looks did not= dating/romance/sex...

That is my assumption at least...
 
Not to defend him but, one problem with guys like this is, they get compliments of how handsome they are and that they must do well with women. This creates a form of ego and expectation that if they are good looking then women should instantly be interested in them and when there not, it shatters their reality.

I assume your coworker and Elliot are like that. Elliot was a good looking guy and from the sound of it, so was your coworker. Thus he saw himself as a superior man and no need to develop a sense of humor/personality because of the compliments.

Thus over time, he became bitter that the end result of his looks did not= dating/romance/sex...

That is my assumption at least...

Ehhhhh....I don't think it's that simple. I get those same compliments and I still don't expect anything because the reality for me is that a lot of chicks still look the other way. Do they owe me their time? Hell no. It's their choice.

What you have to look at is that this Elliot dude had some major issues going on - schizophrenia and such. Again, I'm not a psych expert but I'm sure that being schizophrenic - combined with some childhood upbringing strangeness - contributed to his case.

My coworker seemed to have a "mommy" fixation - maybe his attraction to our co-worker was due to her being a mom and he was trying to tie up some loose ends from his own relationship with his mother? Everyone is different so it's really difficult to say. It is fascinating stuff, though.
 
It seems crazy to me that the people who lash out like this are more often than not privileged rather than disadvantaged. The posts from OP video came off like he was trolling, that's how delusional he sounded.

Fuck that guy and his entitlement.
 
Ehhhhh....I don't think it's that simple. I get those same compliments and I still don't expect anything because the reality for me is that a lot of chicks still look the other way. Do they owe me their time? Hell no. It's their choice.

What you have to look at is that this Elliot dude had some major issues going on - schizophrenia and such. Again, I'm not a psych expert but I'm sure that being schizophrenic - combined with some childhood upbringing strangeness - contributed to his case.

My coworker seemed to have a "mommy" fixation - maybe his attraction to our co-worker was due to her being a mom and he was trying to tie up some loose ends from his own relationship with his mother? Everyone is different so it's really difficult to say. It is fascinating stuff, though.


I suppose your right, myself, I was EXACTLY like Elliot until I entered the world of...Business!

To be honest with you, I was operating on emotions and sentimental value. But upon entering the business world, I developed a mindset of " bringing something to the table" and for me, I didn't want to commit, I didn't want to try hard. I just wanted to cash in on my compliments and receive sex and sexual pleasures.

But upon realization, I had to understand that, I too had to provide something. With relationships, you pay with time and emotions as well as dinner dates/gifts. With massage/escorts, you pay with straight hard cash. No shame, you are paying for it one way or another.

The moment you own up to your true intention, then that's the moment you can be liberated from your inner conflicts. For myself, I wanted what Elliot wanted but like Elliot I didn't want to do the work which is establishing the emotional/social connections. With me, I too was in the Elliot Rodger path but I was at least immersed in to boxing in my loneliness and from there, I got wear an tear, then got a massage, felt good, then I was offered something that was going to make me feel great...

In the end, nothing changes, I am still the same asshole that I was, losing your V card is nothing, it doesn't make you a super saiyan, it doesn't make you a transcendent being, your still just the same person. It literally doesn't do shit and yet he put value in sentimental currency which for him was being loved in a romantic way. This is why I despise romantic movies that glorify love and romance. Its great if you are in to it but the ultimate love comes from you loving yourself and being comfortable in yourself. That is true security and inner peace as oppose to depending your happiness on another persons affection/approval!
 
He was a bitch who couldn't get a bitch. Fuck him!
 
It seems crazy to me that the people who lash out like this are more often than not privileged rather than disadvantaged. The posts from OP video came off like he was trolling, that's how delusional he sounded.

Fuck that guy and his entitlement.

He was a troubled soul, what he did was an ultimate bitch move by killing people who had nothing to do with his suffering. All he needed was a real friend, he was caught by the momentum of life. I experienced and saw what he saw. Like myself, he was a polite gentleman who got bullied and then rejected by girls. Then he saw the girls that rejected him get fucked by the same bullies.

This is very enraging, I channeled it by taking up boxing so I can find my own self worth,while Elliot just chose to replay these moments in his life in his own head. He drove himself crazy and decided to take other people with him.


He was a bitch who couldn't get a bitch. Fuck him!

What he did was a giant piece of shit move and he deserves to spend some serious time in hell. That being said, I used to be like him. I was under the impression that love from a women is what I needed to be happy and fulfilled. Different towns and cities demonize men for being weak little pussies if they don't have girlfriends because they are looked upon as defective.

All he had to do was, find an erotic massage therapist. Get a massage and transition to extra service. Then find like a hobby/sport to occupy his energy and lone and be hold, he would have been better off knowing that he already put love/romance behind him and that he has a sport/hobby to occupy his interest.

He was not some serial killer in the making, if he was truly evil, he would live to torture/kill people for another day and instead he killed himself. This was a sad story....
 
I work with an Elliott.

He always starts his emails with "I hope that all is well" and ends with "All the best"

Annoys the hell out of me.

I end my emails with "Best regards". At first I didn't end them with anything but a dash and my name, but then I felt like it was a bit too empty and succinct to not have a salutation at the end. What do you think about "Best regards"? Would this annoy you? I don't want to be 'that guy'.
 
I end my emails with "Best regards". At first I didn't end them with anything but a dash and my name, but then I felt like it was a bit too empty and succinct to not have a salutation at the end. What do you think about "Best regards"? Would this annoy you? I don't want to be 'that guy'.

I also write "best regards" but sometimes I will write " kind regards"

As far as Elliot goes, he does make a good point that its douchbags that women gravitate towards. But then again that's no reason to let that ruin your life and happiness.
 
His issues were with reality. He wanted things to be a certain way and couldn't understand why being a "gentleman":)eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:) didn't attract all the hot, wet squirters.

It's better that he is gone. A shame he took other people with him.
 
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Misc radicalized him by taunting his height and making him aware that 5'9 is indeed a manlet.
 
His issues were with reality. He wanted things to be a certain way and couldn't understand why being a "gentleman":)eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:) didn't attract all the hot, wet squirters.

It's better that he is gone. A shame he took other people with him.

I knew where he was coming from. He was trying to do the right thing on paper and yet he got bullied and rejected and watched the girls that rejected him choose to get fucked by the bullies.

That is very rage inducing but he should have just moved on and focused on a different aspect of life and found his happiness in that aspect. This way he would have been happy and comfortable which led to him being more attractive down the line.
 
This thread is so . . . Weird. Who wants to sit around comparing themselves to a shithead that took the lives of others? s:

Also, it's only ever dudes I see saying that he was attractive. But to me personally he looks like a dweeb and isn't attractive. Just looks . . . Meh.
 
This thread is so . . . Weird. Who wants to sit around comparing themselves to a shithead that took the lives of others? s:

Also, it's only ever dudes I see saying that he was attractive. But to me personally he looks like a dweeb and isn't attractive. Just looks . . . Meh.

We are not comparing the fact that he murdered people. We are discussing the dynamic of attraction, the expectation of romance and the effect it has when one gets rejected.
 
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