Punching bag way too hard

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    I just bought a 100 lb. Everlast punching bag, but when I kick this thing, it fricken hurts. The bag is too hard. I don't know what they put in it, but it hurts to kick it.
    My TKO brand bag had strips of cloth and foam in it and it was soft, even in the areas where it's really compacted.
    Anyone else have this problem? Or does anyone have a way to make it softer?
    Thanks.
     
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  2. vu Purple Belt

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    Use over time will soften it up...and um...kick it if you can...
     
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    I feel like I'm gonna give myself nerve damage. I guess that's what it feels like to kick someones shin.
     
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    Start lightly and work your way to kick it harder...

    Have you tried kinda unpacking it a little? Or flipping it upside down, slamming it a couple times to kinda "loosen" things up?
     
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    slam it to the pavement like a bag of ice. a lot. Also. You don't want your heavy bag to be too soft, or it doesn't serve the purpose. A heavy Bag should be resistant enough to strengthen your hands and feet. If it's too soft, when you actually punch someones hard skull, your hand will probably break.
     
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    I own an Everlast 100lb bag. It has 5lb sand bags in it for weight. These are harder than the cloth fill so you get uneven areas. I unpack my bags and take the sand out, and just repack with cloth. If you really pack it down you won't lose much weight but it will be uniform in feel. Then you can kick/punch without fear of hitting a 'hard spot'. Some commercial bags are available this way,
    I believe they call it 'soft fill'. If you put all the cloth back in the bag and still have room, you can finish stuffing it with old clothes.

    {Some people advocate hitting it with a bat, or similar. All this does is bust the sand bags, so that the sand slowly sinks to the bottom of the bag.}

    When I repack my bags, and get close to the top, I lay a 25 pound weight on top of the fill. The 25s have holes in them to carry, etc. I use a broomstick to poke down through the holes of the weight, to compact the cotton even more. Fill to top, remove iron weight, and zip or lace it up.
    HTH
     
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    Really? That won't put too much stress on the seams?
    True, but I really want to use it so I can strengthen my kick to maximum potential. With my other bag that I had, I could kick that thing as hard as I wanted and it didn't hurt.
    In certain spots, it's really hard. So I'll be kicking it fine a couple of times and then hit a hard spot and just stop and grimace until the pain goes away.
     
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    Thanks, very informative.

    So since it's filled with sand, me slamming it won't really soften it, will it?

    I still have my old torn TKO bag and all the cloth and foam that was in that one, so I would have enough material to fill the Everlast bag.

    But, that's a lot of work. I took some of the stuff out of the TKO bag to fill another bag and that stuff gets everywhere. There's dust that goes into the air.

    I heard they hydraulically stuff the bags, so would I be able to stuff mine good enough?

    Thanks for the response.
     
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    In a fight if someone checks your kick will you stop fighting and grimace until the pain goes away? :redface:
     
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    Yes, you should be able to stuff it almost as tightly as factory. The cloth fill will settle over time, so you can always add more when the top settles.
    Yes, its a dusty endeavour, but you will have a bag thats right for you.
    Esp if you plan to kick it.
    HTH
     
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    Buy shin guards?

    Dur..
     
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    Adrenaline would prevent that.
    Alright, I'll try that out. Thanks a lot.

    BTW what kind of Everlast bag did you get? Canvas, synthetic leather or what? How durable is the synthetic leather? That's the one I got. I hope it hopes up as well as my canvas TKO bag.
    I kick with my foot most of the time.
     
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    Then learn how to kick + get shinguards with Insteps while breaking the terrible bad habbit of using one of the most vulnerable parts of your body as a weapon.
     
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    Ok I just opened up the bag and there's not sandbags in there. No sand at all. It's cloth just like my TKO Bag. Why the hell does it hurt so damn much then? I don't get it.
    You get more range with the foot. What's wrong with using the foot? I see kickboxers using it all the time.
     
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    i find that in a fight that if u kick an elbow or a knee with the top of ur foot, it is alot less forgiving then if u kick it with ur shin bone, shin bone wont break like the little bones in ur foot,
     
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    That's what I thought.
    But even trying to kick this bag with just my shin, my foot whip around and still hits the bag and it still hurts. I don't know what to do. I want to practice my kicks but I can't.

    Not to mention punching this thing hurts like hell too if I hit the wrong spot, so I most definitely need some heavy bag gloves, which I don't have.
     
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    Shin Pad + Gloves + take your tampon out.

    This is a combat sport, not a tea-party.
     
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    Jesus...are you punching a heavy bag bare-handed...?!!!!

    Start kicking the bag by wearing shin pads if it's that hard...then take the shin pads off when you're used to the impact, but kick lightly...then gradually kick harder...don't just wail on the bag as hard as you can if your shins/insteps aren't conditioned yet...

    And um yeah...wrap your hands and get some bag gloves, man...it'll save you some wear/tear on those joints...
     
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    I can hit the bag just fine with my shins. That doesn't hurt. It's whenever my foot hits the bag it feels like I just kicked a door frame or something.
    I don't want to get nerve damage just because I took my tampon out.
    Yeah I need to get some gloves.
    I didn't have a problem with my other bag. It was canvas so it was rough on the skin, but I could handle that.
     
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    sounds like your training to wreck your body?? no wraps, gloves? and your foot whips around and hits the bag??

    your gonna break something dude, i know an older dude who broke his hands a bunch of times because he trained without glvoes and now he can use his hand for shit. Wrap with gloves!! dont pretend your to tough. anyone who trains for a fight wants to have no injuries you on the other hand will because you need proper training and equip imho.
     
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