Prime (in shape) Duran vs prime "Money" Floyd | Page 11

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  1. StickAndMove Brown Belt

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    Manny is more a 122 or 126 pound fighter. Bumping him up to 140 would be a stretch. It's the reason I rate him higher than Floyd for fighting guys like Margarito, Cotto and Clottey.

    You guys remind me of Coming to America where a white guy always pulls a Rocky Marciano out his ass. Floyd is undefeated but he picked his fights. His quality of opposition, with all variables taken into account, isn't as good as the all-time greats.

    He's still an ATG but to insist he could beat bigger and better guys than he actually fought is just speculation. It seems there are the regulars that are on this board that agree on stuff and if you dissent you're made fun of. If you go by actual evidence though Mayweather wouldn't be compared against any ATG MW's or even JMW's.
     
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    They fought at the same weight thought I believe Pac actually came in heavier. Floyd was taller, yes.
     
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    I would dispute you're giving us alternative facts. Was Floyd so dehydrated he needed an illegal IV he later needed clearance for? Has Manny come into his WW fights at 142-145 after quickly jumping 2 weight classes? Has Floyd skipped his day of unofficial weigh ins?
     
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    Mayweather is a taller bigger man. I don't know man, you sound like you super biased for Maywaether
     
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    No one cares what you think.

    Pac was a short welter, he wasn't really an undersized welter.
     
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    Sure, if you feel better that way, you can think what you want
     
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    Thanks man.
     
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    Really? You see him as a natural bantamweight? You realize he hasn't fought at that weight since like 2003 yeah? No way that would be his natty weight class, he'd have to contract Full blown AIDS to get back down to that weight
     
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    Earned the right to chose his opponents? What does that even mean?

    And fActs are facts. He never fought a prime atg.
     
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    Wow. This outs you as a complete homer.
     
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    His sexual preference has nothing to do with this.
     
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    I don't understand how you think he (Floyd) doesn't stay on his bicycle and pepper the HELL out of Hagler. Countering Hagler's lunging punches as he becomes frustrated and cruising to a 9-3 (or 12-3) UD victory. I really think Floyd is underappreciated on this forum, and it's strange, given the really solid knowledge that is everywhere here. I guess it's just...




























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    He and Marquez are FW sized fighters in their prime. Manny fights at WW but weighs in at around 144 pounds. He could still probably easily make 140 or even 135 pounds. We'll see what his official weight is against Horn.
     
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    Maybe fanboys gonna nuthug? :p
     
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    Homer Simpson. I'll bet Seano's in his undies as we speak sipping a Duff...:D
     
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    If they boxed 10 times in this Scenario, then I think Floyd wins 7 times
     
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    Nuts.

    "Floyd never fought an atg in their prime"

    Gave JMM (the same who went on to get robbed a 3rd time against Pac, then KO him) a 12 rnd boxing lesson, then did the same to Pacquiao, who beat Tim Bradley before AND after his 12 rounds looking like first timer in the ring with Floyd.

    I'd give a little consideration to arguments that could be made if there was any chance they could change the outcome, but unfortunately no number of changes was going to change that outcome in either fight.

    They were both seasoned, I'll take experience over physical prime.
     
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    Your welcome.

    Duran > Manny beat Cotto and De la Hoya > Prime Mayweather

    This is probably true though, but you can feel safe in your own delusions, i'm on board
     
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    I knew what you meant I was joking
     
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    Mmmm it can go both ways for experience and physical prime depending on the fighter.

    Man people here are really underestimating Marvelous, you think Floyd is going to shoulder roll his way out the entire fight against someone like hagler?! where did this notion that Floyd is untouchable come from ?, Mosley hurt him , PAC too, Castillo, Maidana. You mean to tell me hagler wouldn't be able to , if he could walk through hearns right hand he should not have some problems eating some counters to get to him.
    Ps hagler Knew how to box quite well people don't give him enough credit for that
     
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