Prime Hughes vs prime (current) Khabib

[Law Dog]

Hughes gets murked.. Anyone who get smashed by Dennis Hllaman twice while Hallman was in the midst of a sketchy W/L streak, is a bum.

Then to make it worse, Hallman beats his 2nd nephew Mathias Hughes, right after.

So he’s just whooping the whole family of Hughes. Matt’s not doing anything to Khabibby

 

[Jon Stark]

Hughes slams him at the back of the barn and serves Khabib and all American country breakfast.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

Jesus christ n00b alert

Hughes is a legit grappler

I joined a lot earlier than you actually ha ha

 

[quantiqus]

new generation is always better

Khabib > GPS
Woodley > GPS
Ngannou > Fedor
Wilder > Tyson

 

[MMAart]

Prime Hughes.

Roided or natty Hughes?

 

[Codpiece]

Cherry picking individuals =/= a whole generation evolved over the prior generation.

If that was true no one from the prior generations would be able to compete with successive ones.

With the sport growing we are certainly to see the odd break through fighter. that again =/= the entire sport evolving.

Otherwise in a couple of years we should expect to see a LHW that prime Jones could never compete with.

I think because the sport is so young people have a warped perception of how it has changed. The early days there were tough guys and specialists, but those early days really went from the beginning until the end of the 90’s. guys like Frank Shamrock who were good in multiple areas were the exception until not very long ago. But since cross-trained guys became common during the 00’s the skill level has (in my estimation) somewhat plateaued.

Hughes at his prime had a decent sub game, excellent top game and somewhat improved striking. He was absurdly strong, too. I think he matches up well with Khabib’s clinching style and would find himself on top. Since we haven’t seen Khabib on the bottom I have no dea what he looks like, and we also have no idea if Khabib has peaked yet. But at this point I’d take prime Hughes over Khabib.

 

[Brock-B-level-Athlete]

Khabib > GPS

Woodley > GPS

Ngannou > Fedor

Conor > BJ

Joshua > Ali

Wilder > Tyson

Loma > Floyd

 

[Iroh]

Roided or natty Hughes?

There was only one prime Hughes. You believe he was roided, so there is your answer.

 

[quantiqus]

Khabib > GPS

Woodley > GPS

Ngannou > Fedor

Conor > BJ

Joshua > Ali

Wilder > Tyson

Loma > Floyd

Ronda > Cain

 

[MikeMcMann]

they were from the same generation, thats why.

How are you defining 'generations' in terms of fighting? By fighter age or by fight years (when they started fighting)?

 

[Brock-B-level-Athlete]

Ronda > Cain

Ronda is no joke.

She improved:

Rondas boxing is much better:

Rondas chin is made of steel:

look how strong she has become:

 

[MikeMcMann]

Otherwise in a couple of years we should expect to see a LHW that prime Jones could never compete with.

I think because the sport is so young people have a warped perception of how it has changed. The early days there were tough guys and specialists, but those early days really went from the beginning until the end of the 90’s. guys like Frank Shamrock who were good in multiple areas were the exception until not very long ago. But since cross-trained guys became common during the 00’s the skill level has (in my estimation) somewhat plateaued.

Hughes at his prime had a decent sub game, excellent top game and somewhat improved striking. He was absurdly strong, too. I think he matches up well with Khabib’s clinching style and would find himself on top. Since we haven’t seen Khabib on the bottom I have no dea what he looks like, and we also have no idea if Khabib has peaked yet. But at this point I’d take prime Hughes over Khabib.

Agreed.

The biggest difference in MMA now as opposed to then is the infrastructure for training MMA and living an entire MMA life. Back in the day most fighters, who were not the top guys needed a second job. Now few do and even the middling guys can make a life in MMA, from gyms and training and other MMA activities.

But what has changed is that everyone is reasonable well rounded so the easy fights are mostly gone. But specialists still exist. Maia is a specialist and so is Khabib who is really no more well rounded than Hughes was.

Unfortunately the level of athlete has not really changed in MMA, which will really be the first big evolution in MMA. When HIgh School age A-level athletes who have other choices (Football, Basketball, other) start instead streaming towards a career in MMA then that will be the first true evolution of the sport.

 

[Brock-B-level-Athlete]

Agreed.

The biggest difference in MMA now as opposed to then is the infrastructure for training MMA and living an entire MMA life. Back in the day most fighters, who were not the top guys needed a second job. Now few do and even the middling guys can make a life in MMA, from gyms and training and other MMA activities.

But what has changed is that everyone is reasonable well rounded so the easy fights are mostly gone. But specialists still exist. Maia is a specialist and so is Khabib who is really no more well rounded than Hughes was.

Unfortunately the level of athlete has not really changed in MMA, which will really be the first big evolution in MMA. When HIgh School age A-level athletes who have other choices (Football, Basketball, other) start instead streaming towards a career in MMA then that will be the first true evolution of the sport.

its almost still the same.

 

[MikeMcMann]

its almost still the same.

You have far more young guys who like Rory grow up doing nothing but MMA. Lots of guys like at TAM who have access to training all day, everyday. Lots of guys whose only jobs, such as in MMA gyms keep them in that environment and give them access to non stop training.

 

[Adjutant]

Khabib would smash him, he's better everywhere I believe.

Khabib has better "wrestling", but Hughes' ground and pound and sub game are waaayy ahead of Khabib. If its on the ground, I definitely favor Matt

 

[Swoliosis]

I joined a lot earlier than you actually ha ha

That doesn't really say much, I've been watching since 2003. Your last post was embarassing.

 

[FrontNakedChoke]

Tibau

 

[tithas]

Hughes is more proven and is just as good of a grappler

And he can actually submit people.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Hughes gets murked.. Anyone who get smashed by Dennis Hllaman twice while Hallman was in the midst of a sketchy W/L streak, is a bum.

Then to make it worse, Hallman beats his 2nd nephew Mathias Hughes, right after.

So he’s just whooping the whole family of Hughes. Matt’s not doing anything to Khabibby

Plus, MMA has come far since then. Let's not forget BJ beat a prime Hughes.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

That doesn't really say much, I've been watching since 2003. Your last post was embarassing.

Quite a few people in here agree with me. It’s a difference of opinion mate, no need to get worked up over it. There’s no way you’ve been watching that long for you to be acting in this fashion.