Prime Fedor would Zulu #2 HW Derrick Lewis and that says a lot

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  1. ermac88

    ermac88 Black Belt

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    Hendo first knocked Bisping out in 2009 at MW
    He then lost to Jakes Shields as a middle weight in 2010.
    He knocked Fedor out under a year after that at what is a MW fight weight.
     
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  3. Noveltymortar

    Noveltymortar Uncle Donald is our savior

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    I think Fedor's career is overrated, but yes, I think he would have handled Lewis.
     
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    Mmmmmmma1234 Brown Belt

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    Everyone should easily handle Lewis ... until they don't.
    <Fedor23>
     
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    capo245 Orange Belt

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    Lewis cardio is so bad he would dropp just by walking around in the first 10minute round. And that laying on the ground to recover doesnt work when soccerkicks and stomps are in play. Lewis would gas after 2 haymakers as seen in the volkov fight.
     
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  6. Magnum1978

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    9/10 he easily smashes B.Beast but there's that 1/10 where Lewis just does it
     
  7. dns2344

    dns2344 Purple Belt

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    Hendo hits harder than most not to mention the awkward position they ended up in after Hendo swept him. Lewis would be helpless once Fedor got on top of him. There would be no resistance. In other words Hendos fight has zero relevance to this thread.
    This fight wouldn’t end in KO, it would end up in submission if we’re talking prime Fedor. Lewis would be tossed and bagged in the first round.
     
  8. shococham

    shococham Purple Belt

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    Impossible to compare any fighter to Pride fighters unless we have a time machine and can give all fighters the special "cocktails" they all had back then
     
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    lsa Maître d' at The Pussy Lounge

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    Minowa has never ever been beaten.
     
  10. mkt

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    Why does everything have to be about Fedor? The state of current HWs is just really bad right now everywhere, with a few exceptions. Lewis would also have zero chance of winning the belt when JDS, Cain, etc. were in their prime in the UFC. He was losing to guys like Shawn Jordan back then. And plenty of old HWs (in both UFC and Bellator) would almost certainly beat Lewis if they were in their prime...Werdum, JDS, Barnett, Overeem, Nelson, Mir, Rothwell, Sylvia, Arlovski (with a small puncher's chance of losing), etc. Some of them may still beat him today like Hunt did.
     
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    TrevorRoss Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    2018 Fedor whips his ass.
     
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    melvinj0 Gold Belt

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    Matt Mitrione already did that to Lewis

    Tbh though, It’s hard to really considering Lewis the no 2 HW, he pulls wins out of his ass most of the time and never really looks good in fights, he just somehow wins.
     
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    Why do people bother commenting this garbage?

    Hendo was 207 lbs. against Fedor who was 223, a whopping 16 lbs. lighter. Fedor just fought Mir who was 20+ lbs heavier and Mitrione who was around 20 lbs. heavier. The guy fought Bigfoot who was probably 280 lbs. in the cage. But yes, let's keep talking about the fact that one of the greatest fighters in MMA history, who was an amazing KO artist, on TRT, and holds wins over Big Nog, Wanderlei, Shogun, Vitor, etc. and act like it's some huge knock on Fedor's legacy.

    People who perpetuate this "Hendo was a MW" garbage aren't even MMA fans. Fedor does not cut weight, he enters the cage at what he weighs in at. Robert Whittaker and Yoel Romero are both Middleweights but enter the cage at 205 and 210 lbs. respectively. If Fedor fought Romero and weighed 235 lbs, no.....he would not have a 50 lb. weight advantage. He would have a 25 lb. weight advantage. You can't have it both ways here. Henderson was 16 lbs. lighter than Fedor which is probably only a couple lbs. heavier than what he always entered the cage at.
     
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    He knocked out bisping,lost to Jake shields....

    Then he fought 2× @ LHW winning the SF LHW TITLE .

    middle weight is 172-185lbs.......LHW is 187-205lbs.


    Hendo fought fedor weighing just above the LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT limit he was not a middleweight he weighed 20lbs over the mw limit........your absolutely incorrect.

    After the fedor fight he fought 6 more times at LHW before dropping back down to 185 at the end of his career nearly winning the title.


    Nice try bud but your still COMPLETELY WRONG move along buddy.....glad I could school a hopeless soul.
     
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    Yeah, I don't know where he really ranks. His last loss was to Hunt who's only won 3 of his last 9 fights. Ngannou really messed things up by refusing to engage. He's a better fighter than Lewis when he tries. As for #2, are you counting both Stipe and Cormier as HWs? No way Lewis jumps ahead of Stipe, even if he lost his last fight. I also think Blaydes wins via wrestling, since even an old, fat Roy Nelson took Lewis down. Also, Blaydes has 5 straight UFC wins (6 if you count him getting tested for pot) and only one career loss. I'd put him ahead of Lewis based on how both did against Hunt.

    Edit: just saw this where he's ranked #3. I'd put him at 4 or 5 but I don't make the rankings.
    http://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/2/Sherdogs-Official-Mixed-Martial-Arts-Rankings-143645
     
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    I hope Fedor Zulu's Chael this weekend.
     
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    Heck, washed up 42 year old Fedor could still beat Lewis. His chin is gone but he is still faster, more skilled and has better cardio. Fedor would be the favorite.
     
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    Amen. The whole thing is a false narrative anyway. Hendo was the LHW champ at the time, and he weighed in at HW for the Fedor fight....making him a HW (who was also on PEDs). They pick the lightest weight Hendo ever fought at like that is his default weight for eternity. Again, he was the LHW champ at the time, so even using their twisted logic, at worst Fedor (who was on the worst streak of his entire career) lost to the LHW champ. Eh. At one point in Fedor's life, he weighed 100 lbs, so hey, Hendo beat an atom weight.

    In reality, virtually everyone at MW and LHW are just HWs who cut. All of these guys walk around at 200 lbs +. Fedor, Barnett, Cormier, etc could all cut their extra bodyfat and fight at much lower weights. Fedor and Cormier could make MW with low bodyfat but they don't want to diet down and dehydrate themselves. That isn't always good anyway. Cormier started looking worse at HW once he started losing weight trying to drop to LHW. And once he got to LHW he never had the same power he had at HW.
     
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    Dan lost to Shields at MW less than a year before he knocked Fedor out.

    Anyone IN the cage at 206lbs is a MW

    No shame in getting knocked out by Dan
    But hed get destroyed by modern HWs as he has been
     
  20. george14

    george14 Green Belt

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    Thank you, a reasonable poster.

    I've never understood those arguments. If you are a small HW (230 lbs or less without cutting) then you are essentially a LHW. Especially if you are a guy like Fedor or DC who had visible chub on them. Look at the weigh in today, Chael Sonnen fought at 185 easily but he currently looks the same as Fedor except more muscular. Is Sonnen a MW? No, he is a HW because he weighs 227 lbs. End of story.

    It's like saying Andrei Arlovski lost to a WW in Rumble Johnson. It doesn't even make sense.
     
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