President of Association of Boxing Commissioners: Conor's conduct jeopardized the health and safety | Page 9

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  1. AimedWithV Purple Belt

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    They did it not for Conor, but for having the most successful event and the biggest revenue of 2017.
    Even though it wasn't MMA event, this brought him more $$ than MMA this year.

    The "treated like a son" BS can only get to the heads of people who do not understand business.
     
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  2. krelianx Silver Belt

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    Now you're conflating getting the kind of preferential treatment someone with very clear potential for fame gets and someone who has proven this potential and can set his own set of rules. The UFC is a company, and Conor was an investment.

    Conor was always an asset, but to say he was always treated as he is now is quite frankly dumb.
     
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  3. Mask Of Winters Red Belt

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    How's that working out for them these days, hmmm?

    Now you've got a loose cannon (to say the least) who refuses to actually fight anymore and is demanding part ownership of the company while jumping into cages during events for a rival promotion and attacking refs. Whoops. A bit too late for Dana/WME to regret their mistake now.

    You keep telling someone he's the most special person in the universe and eventually he's going to believe it. And it never ends well.
     
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  4. AimedWithV Purple Belt

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    Mistake? Why mistake?

    Did Conor bring him money? Yes he did.
    Will Conor continue giving him money if they come to agreement? Yes he will.

    His demands only mean that he got rid of UFC's leash. He's not a "slave" like other fighters, he negotiates.
    They never had a star more successful than him, thus the demands are higher than those of anyone else.

    After all, it's all business. Bellator appearance is also part of the business - he showed that he can boost ratings of a competitor just by appearing on the screen.

    And thank you for silently agreeing that "treating like a son" is BS
     
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  5. Mask Of Winters Red Belt

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    What's dumb is failing to see this coming from a mile away. I don't believe I'm right, I know I am. And because I know, no insult can faze me. Water off a duck's back and all that. The boys in charge screwed up, and now they'll have to pay the price. Literally. Dr. Frankenstein didn't even create a monster to this degree. Only solution now is to tear down what they built, and it won't be easy, if it can even be done at all.
     
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  6. AimedWithV Purple Belt

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    You're a clown and you do not know anything about business.

    Conor is not a Frankenstein monster, Conor is the golden goose. He brings more revenue than anyone else.
    They do not have to give him fights, they can just move on and the "monster" would be....dead? But guess what - they want this money, no one forces them to keep a belt on him and to offer him fights.
     
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  7. krelianx Silver Belt

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    What exactly is "the price"? Even if they decide to strip him, the guy has made more money for the company, Dana included, and created more interest in the sport, than they would have without him. If he becomes a liability they will take due measures. But the sad fact is that if Conor steps in the ring he outsells the next big thing by an ample margin, and makes everyone more money. The moment the reward ceases to be reasonable, for whatever reason, they will pull the plug and the sport will move on.

    As a fan, I find this obnoxious and would like to see the guy stripped or, better yet, lose his belt, to definitively put an end to this charade. But as of now he remains the biggest athlete-asset that the UFC has, and they won't simply throw the guy in the gutter while he is at his highest value, unless his demands become unreasonable.

    You have no sense of proportion, and your arrogance makes you exceedingly colored in your judgment.
     
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  8. Zefram Cochrane Red belt in warp theory and practice.

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    Try to trespass into someone's property and then go cry to the judge saying you weren't trying to injure anyone after you get smashed with a baseball bat by the owners. Let's see how that works out for you.

    What happened to McGregor is mild and that was only because it's McGregor. Anyone else would have been tackled on the spot, restrained and escorted out of the building, and the fight and security officials would have had all the legal rights to do that.

    I wouldn't be so sure about that. I'm not even talking about the UFC code of conduct. In many professions one is held to a higher standard. A lawyer can get disbarred if they do something illegal in their private capacity even in a jurisdiction where they are not licensed. That's true for many other jobs.

    One would have to know if there are moral and ethical requirements to get licensed for fighting. I honestly don't know the answer to that question, but if it is positive then sanctions are definitely a possibility.

    I don't even think you are trolling. You are genuinely challenged.
     
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  9. giusti825 ßanned

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    what im saying is that commissions are govt entities that should adhere to govt limitations.....

    if mcgregor wasnt licensed at the time of the event, and he was only there as an audience member, then the proper govt channel for resolving any issues are the irish police and/or civil courts.....

    Taxpayers of Nevada shouldnt have their tax money going toward proceedings to discipline an audience member in Ireland....

    Its just insane overreach....the state of nevada should have no jurisdiction in matters occuring in Dublin....its none of their business....
    If i was Conor, I would take my next fight overseas....its ridiculous the level of legal gymnastics Nevada allows that commission to get away with....
     
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  10. Philly253 Brown Belt

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  11. robertcop2 I’ll be back.

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  12. soulsstealer Red Belt

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    this just shows the crazy BS you are making this out to be.

    some dude jumps the fence we both watching some mma and gives me a high five as celebration.
     
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  13. soulsstealer Red Belt

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    Is this all america is about my property and how i have the right to defend it. the metaphors arent comparable whatsoever.
     
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  14. Overpressure Double Yellow Card

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    Dana's nothing to say in days, where he would have immediately let another fighter go citing conduct policy, is speaking loudly
     
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  15. Sgt Smith Bassed God

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    Conor did everything wrong.
     
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