President of Association of Boxing Commissioners: Conor's conduct jeopardized the health and safety

[AimedWithV]

Dana, Sean Shelby, the Fertittas, whoever the WME execs are, whoever agreed to let him fight Mayweather in addition to those people, and lord knows how many fanbois. I'm sure I'm leaving someone out but my point is made.

They did it not for Conor, but for having the most successful event and the biggest revenue of 2017.
Even though it wasn't MMA event, this brought him more $$ than MMA this year.

The "treated like a son" BS can only get to the heads of people who do not understand business.

 

[krelianx]

He was getting privileged treatment from day one, even as he was on the shelf for a year with a torn ACL. Only other fighter I can recall the UFC treating like a king that soon was Brock, and I can at least understand the reason for that.

Now you're conflating getting the kind of preferential treatment someone with very clear potential for fame gets and someone who has proven this potential and can set his own set of rules. The UFC is a company, and Conor was an investment.

Conor was always an asset, but to say he was always treated as he is now is quite frankly dumb.

 

[Mask Of Winters]

They did it not for Conor, but for having the most successful event and the biggest revenue of 2017.
Even though it wasn't MMA event, this brought him more $$ than MMA this year.

The "treated like a son" BS can only get to the heads of people who do not understand business.

How's that working out for them these days, hmmm?

Now you've got a loose cannon (to say the least) who refuses to actually fight anymore and is demanding part ownership of the company while jumping into cages during events for a rival promotion and attacking refs. Whoops. A bit too late for Dana/WME to regret their mistake now.

You keep telling someone he's the most special person in the universe and eventually he's going to believe it. And it never ends well.

 

[AimedWithV]

How's that working out for them these days, hmmm?

Now you've got a loose cannon (to say the least) who refuses to actually fight anymore and is demanding part ownership of the company while jumping into cages during events for a rival promotion and attacking refs. Whoops. A bit too late for Dana/WME to regret their mistake now.

You keep telling someone he's the most special person in the universe and eventually he's going to believe it. And it never ends well.

Mistake? Why mistake?

Did Conor bring him money? Yes he did.
Will Conor continue giving him money if they come to agreement? Yes he will.

His demands only mean that he got rid of UFC's leash. He's not a "slave" like other fighters, he negotiates.
They never had a star more successful than him, thus the demands are higher than those of anyone else.

After all, it's all business. Bellator appearance is also part of the business - he showed that he can boost ratings of a competitor just by appearing on the screen.

And thank you for silently agreeing that "treating like a son" is BS

 

[Mask Of Winters]

Now you're conflating getting the kind of preferential treatment someone with very clear potential for fame gets and someone who has proven this potential and can set his own set of rules. The UFC is a company, and Conor was an investment.

Conor was always an asset, but to say he was always treated as he is now is quite frankly dumb.

What's dumb is failing to see this coming from a mile away. I don't believe I'm right, I know I am. And because I know, no insult can faze me. Water off a duck's back and all that. The boys in charge screwed up, and now they'll have to pay the price. Literally. Dr. Frankenstein didn't even create a monster to this degree. Only solution now is to tear down what they built, and it won't be easy, if it can even be done at all.

 

[AimedWithV]

What's dumb is failing to see this coming from a mile away. I don't believe I'm right, I know I am. And because I know, no insult can faze me. Water off a duck's back and all that. The boys in charge screwed up, and now they'll have to pay the price. Literally. Dr. Frankenstein didn't even create a monster to this degree. Only solution now is to tear down what they built, and it won't be easy, if it can even be done at all.

You're a clown and you do not know anything about business.

Conor is not a Frankenstein monster, Conor is the golden goose. He brings more revenue than anyone else.
They do not have to give him fights, they can just move on and the "monster" would be....dead? But guess what - they want this money, no one forces them to keep a belt on him and to offer him fights.

 

[krelianx]

What's dumb is failing to see this coming from a mile away. I don't believe I'm right, I know I am. And because I know, no insult can faze me. Water off a duck's back and all that. The boys in charge screwed up, and now they'll have to pay the price. Literally. Dr. Frankenstein didn't even create a monster to this degree. Only solution now is to tear down what they built, and it won't be easy, if it can even be done at all.

What exactly is "the price"? Even if they decide to strip him, the guy has made more money for the company, Dana included, and created more interest in the sport, than they would have without him. If he becomes a liability they will take due measures. But the sad fact is that if Conor steps in the ring he outsells the next big thing by an ample margin, and makes everyone more money. The moment the reward ceases to be reasonable, for whatever reason, they will pull the plug and the sport will move on.

As a fan, I find this obnoxious and would like to see the guy stripped or, better yet, lose his belt, to definitively put an end to this charade. But as of now he remains the biggest athlete-asset that the UFC has, and they won't simply throw the guy in the gutter while he is at his highest value, unless his demands become unreasonable.

You have no sense of proportion, and your arrogance makes you exceedingly colored in your judgment.

 

[Zefram Cochrane]

dude just cuz somone is not allowed to be there you dont injure them unless they are injuring someone else.

Try to trespass into someone's property and then go cry to the judge saying you weren't trying to injure anyone after you get smashed with a baseball bat by the owners. Let's see how that works out for you.

What happened to McGregor is mild and that was only because it's McGregor. Anyone else would have been tackled on the spot, restrained and escorted out of the building, and the fight and security officials would have had all the legal rights to do that.

legally speaking,he shouldnt be held to any higher standard than an audience member....

that was his official capacity at the event.....

he isnt licensed in the jurisdiction where the incident took place.....hell, there is no legal legitimate sanctioning body there.....

He should be given no worse punishment than an audience member....

I forget how long a license remains valid.....if its a year from t

I wouldn't be so sure about that. I'm not even talking about the UFC code of conduct. In many professions one is held to a higher standard. A lawyer can get disbarred if they do something illegal in their private capacity even in a jurisdiction where they are not licensed. That's true for many other jobs.

One would have to know if there are moral and ethical requirements to get licensed for fighting. I honestly don't know the answer to that question, but if it is positive then sanctions are definitely a possibility.

The Ivan Buchinger fight. Unnecessarily launched Conor with a push when he was doing nothing but standing there with a punch loaded to throw at unconscious Ivan

I don't even think you are trolling. You are genuinely challenged.

 

[giusti825]

Try to trespass into someone's property and then go cry to the judge saying you weren't trying to injure anyone after you get smashed with a baseball bat by the owners. Let's see how that works out for you.

What happened to McGregor is mild and that was only because it's McGregor. Anyone else would have been tackled on the spot, restrained and escorted out of the building, and the fight and security officials would have had all the legal rights to do that.



I wouldn't be so sure about that. I'm not even talking about the UFC code of conduct. In many professions one is held to a higher standard. A lawyer can get disbarred if they do something illegal in their private capacity even in a jurisdiction where they are not licensed. That's true for many other jobs.

One would have to know if there are moral and ethical requirements to get licensed for fighting. I honestly don't know the answer to that question, but if it is positive then sanctions are definitely a possibility.



I don't even think you are trolling. You are genuinely challenged.

what im saying is that commissions are govt entities that should adhere to govt limitations.....

if mcgregor wasnt licensed at the time of the event, and he was only there as an audience member, then the proper govt channel for resolving any issues are the irish police and/or civil courts.....

Taxpayers of Nevada shouldnt have their tax money going toward proceedings to discipline an audience member in Ireland....

Its just insane overreach....the state of nevada should have no jurisdiction in matters occuring in Dublin....its none of their business....
If i was Conor, I would take my next fight overseas....its ridiculous the level of legal gymnastics Nevada allows that commission to get away with....

 

[Philly253]

It's All Over!

 

[robertcop2]

Christ, you fuckers act like Goddard took his dick out and smacked Connie's mom in the face. Here's timeline to explain why people are pissed:

Conor jumped into the cage when he knew he wasn't allowed in, the ref and the officials told him to get the fuck out of the cage, with Goddard placing his hand on Gonad's chest, Gonad freaked out and pushed himself off of Goddard (that was the "shove" all you nuthuggers thought happened, Conor shoved himself), chases after Goddard, shoves him while screaming drunken obscenities at Marc, causing him to have to be restrained against the cage by officials. Conor's attempts to escape said restraint cause him to knock another official into the injured fighter who just had his brains turned into scrambled eggs. In the meantime, drunken dipshit is still ranting at Goddard and acting very aggressively, and you can tell the officials are worried something violent might happen. So they expel him, only for Conor to come right back and try to climb over the cage again. The official then tries to gently push his legs off, and the dipshit fucking assaults the official before security finally gets their heads out of their asses and kick this deranged lunatic out of the building.

And then after seeing this shitshow go down, people now have to watch as his fucking fans twist everything that happened so that it's the ref's fault, it's the commissioners fault, it's the fault of lax security, basically, everybody but the fucking guy who stormed the ring and acted like a jackass, because apparently, it's easier to do that than to just say "I like the guy, but he shouldn't have done that." And you wonder why a good portion of the fight audience doesn't like the fucking guy.

 

[soulsstealer]

So you're saying if some random dude kicks down your door and storms into your house, you'd just let him do whatever he wanted to you?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

this just shows the crazy BS you are making this out to be.

some dude jumps the fence we both watching some mma and gives me a high five as celebration.

 

[soulsstealer]

Try to trespass into someone's property and then go cry to the judge saying you weren't trying to injure anyone after you get smashed with a baseball bat by the owners. Let's see how that works out for you.

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Is this all america is about my property and how i have the right to defend it. the metaphors arent comparable whatsoever.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Dana's nothing to say in days, where he would have immediately let another fighter go citing conduct policy, is speaking loudly

 

[Sgt Smith]

But the comments on this story that are basically "Conor did nothing wrong" holy shit

Conor did everything wrong.