I give Fedor fans a lot of crap, and the man was amazing, but none of those guys are JDS or Cain for that matter. Arlovski arguably has crisper boxing, but JDS has a power advantage and isn't going for a flying knee. He's not going for headkicks against a superior grappler and he's not Tim Sylvia. All that said I still don't know who I would root for and damn TS for making me think about this fight again.
I give Fedor fans a lot of crap, and the man was amazing, but none of those guys are JDS or Cain for that matter. Arlovski arguably has crisper boxing, but JDS has a power advantage and isn't going for a flying knee. He's not going for headkicks against a superior grappler and he's not Tim Sylvia. All that said I still don't know who I would root for and damn TS for making me think about this fight again.
huh, he keep fighting and trying to win despite taking severe beatings in both those cain fights.
All of HW should thank Cain for ruining JDS.
JDS by being a superior mixed martial artist.
JDS by being a superior mixed martial artist.
His mental weakness is not in his inability to take punishment.
His weakness is that once he get challenged he freezes and ONLY takes punishment. His hands just seem to not work anymore and he gets abused.
Don't ask me why, it's strange to me as well, especially for such an athlete.
I know JDS looked like a world beater when he faced old dudes in Mir, Crocop, Yvel ...
I know he looked awesome against dudes with no mobility like Roy or Big Ben, or 1 rounders like Carwin. But they didn't challenge him.
I agree JDS is the much more well rounded MMA fighter, but I was responding to the point that he made that no HW can beat JDS standing, which is not true. On the feet Semmy would dismantle him
In MMA (Especially in cage), thats not a foregone conclusion by any means. Who did Semmy beat in a bout with MMA striking rules?
Wow, love that image! You know what it's called? Would love to have a high-resolution version of it.We , Fedor fans , are capable of being concerned of ALL things .View attachment 343905
JDS is a better anti grappler than Semmy(although he's not faced the sub grappling talent Schilt did) but that fight would likely be standup vs standup.
I think its partly technical, JDS doesn't have great head movement close in nore does he have a good straight counter but yeah it does seem like when guys have him against the cage he freezes up, we've seen it happen in pretty much every fight from the second Cain match onwards.
Honestly in the Pride environment I think he'd have quite quickly started taking a lot of punishment, Fedor, Semmy, Crocop, Sergei, Aleks and a younger quicker Hunt would lay hands(or shins) on him too much. Not that I couldn't see him still winning some of those fights but he'd IMHO likely not have lasted well.
I'm not saying this as an insult to JDS, but he should have been a belly puncher.
This tactic made his shine vs Big Ben and vs Carwin.
Get in, punch the belly, get out, circle circle, repeat. And then a flurry in the last 30 sec of each round, especially later rounds.
It would have worked for him. Still can.
As for the cage yeah, once he touches that fence it's like he's glued to it. All his movement goes to shit.
You just exposed your ignorance of JDS' skills.Let's compare their assets...
JDS:
Boxing
Td defense
Sub defense
Strength/power
Conditioning
Chin/durability
Fedor:
Trips/throws
Guard
Transitions
GNP
Dirty boxing
Kickboxing
Subs/sub defense
Strength/power
Conditioning
Chin/durability