Power Hungry UC Berkeley Cop takes all cash from a Hotdog Street Vendor's wallet. Right or Wrong?

It does seem kinda silly thinking about hot dog cash as proceeds of crime, but technically.. haha
 
Madmick said:
Because if you don't you get a roach coach infestation in parking lots without any of those vendors paying property tax fees, or maintaining or upholding their properties that are the points of sale. Basically, they just roll downtown, where all of the merchants who have built up an area attracting consumers, and these people just piggyback for free without paying anything into the system that makes it what it is.


If the point of the thread is to demonstrate that it's illegal for a cop to confiscate cash this way, then maybe you should have constructed an OP citing the penal code and precedent. Nothing in your OP discusses the law, or enlightens any of us to it. Yet here you are with your mind clearly made up trying to get us to sign your petition. You know what that's called, grasshopper?

A confirmation bias. Piss off.
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What are you a restaurant owner? Who cares, vendor permits are retarded. If established businesses can't compete with a taco truck then maybe they shouldn't have been in business in the first place.
 
Madmick said:
Does the guy selling hot dogs have a permit? Does the area where he was selling them require a permit?

No and no? Why on earth do you think my sympathies would lie with him? He's not a victim. He's a lawbreaker. Fuck your petition.
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Hahaha someone is hard line when it comes to hotdog regulation
 
Civil asset forfeiture. The cops can seize whatever the fuck they want from people. Cash, cars, boats, houses. No proof of wrongdoing necessary. I don't even think they give a receipt.
 
Kalitaur said:
This probably falls under civil forfeiture, which is apparently VERY open to interpretation.

"Civil forfeiture in the United States, also called civil asset forfeiture or civil judicial forfeiture or occasionally civil seizure, is a controversial legal process in which law enforcement officers take assets from persons suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity without necessarily charging the owners with wrongdoing."
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Lol at this legalized corruption
 
Fuck that's some petty shit.

That cop is a petty piece of shit..give him a ticket and get the fuck on.

Seizing the cash for evidence?

Lol,sure he's within his legal rights but he just literally wasted every fucking tax payers money by inidating every fucking person that is now gonna be tasked with sorting/submitting said cash into evidence.....
Yeah, this cop is a shining pillar of police work.



Over a fucking hot dog.

California forfeiture laws require conviction,this dick..used evidence as his weapon..going to trial over a hotdog citation? Lol..

This idiot cop just cost his city 500 times the money in legal fees/work then this 100$ citation will net them...

Check out the brains on brad
 
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@EL GOAT @Madmick
Kalitaur said:
This probably falls under civil forfeiture, which is apparently VERY open to interpretation.

"Civil forfeiture in the United States, also called civil asset forfeiture or civil judicial forfeiture or occasionally civil seizure, is a controversial legal process in which law enforcement officers take assets from persons suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity without necessarily charging the owners with wrongdoing."
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So a lil kid has a lemonade stand, no permit.

By some of you ppl's logic it's ok to 1) seize the kid's "proceeds of illegal activity"
Why stop there ? Next : seize the house for allowing "illegal activity on premises"

Hey, it's legal man. Civil forfeiture.
 
funcrusher2007 said:
Fuck that's some petty shit.

That cop is a petty piece of shit..give him a ticket and get the fuck on.

Seizing the cash for evidence?

Lol,sure he's within his legal rights but he just literally wasted every fucking tax payers money by inidating every fucking person that is now gonna be tasked with sorting/submitting said cash into evidence.....
Yeah, this cop is a shining pillar of police work.



Over a fucking hot dog.

California forfeiture laws require conviction,this dick..used evidence as his weapon..going to trial over a hotdog citation? Lol..

This idiot cop just cost his city 500 times the money in legal fees/work then this 100$ citation will net them...

Check out the brains on brad
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Also good luck to Judge Dredd there being promoted to anything involving more than cycling around like a pansy and handing out tickets.
He's a fkn PR liability.
 
4daLuLZ said:
@EL GOAT @Madmick

So a lil kid has a lemonade stand, no permit.

By some of you ppl's logic it's ok to 1) seize the kid's "proceeds of illegal activity"
Why stop there ? Next : seize the house for allowing "illegal activity on premises"

Hey, it's legal man. Civil forfeiture.
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Civil forfeiture seems like something belonging in the feudal period, not 21st century representative republics.
 
Madmick said:
Does the guy selling hot dogs have a permit? Does the area where he was selling them require a permit?

No and no? Why on earth do you think my sympathies would lie with him? He's not a victim. He's a lawbreaker. Fuck your petition.
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So you think the officer should be able to confiscate his cash then and there? Without due process? Something is fucked here, but it's not the petition.

On another note, licensing restrictions are almost entirely bullshit. They generally keep poor minorities form making money for themselves by working, as is the case here.
 
spamking said:
Who would want to eat a cold hot dog from someone off the street? But to answer your question, yes you can get sick if they've not been held at the proper cold holding temperature or cooked and then not held at the proper hot holding temperature.
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Just to add to this, other things can go wrong on the manufacturers side as well. For instance, I knew a burger place that almost got sued because the hot dog they sold to a customer had a staple in it. Luckily for them they contacted their vendor and were able to re direct the lawsuit against them to
The vendor they bought the hot dogs from. Then that vendor redirected the lawsuit to the manufacturer
 
4daLuLZ said:
@EL GOAT @Madmick

So a lil kid has a lemonade stand, no permit.

By some of you ppl's logic it's ok to 1) seize the kid's "proceeds of illegal activity"
Why stop there ? Next : seize the house for allowing "illegal activity on premises"

Hey, it's legal man. Civil forfeiture.
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Ignore it, IMO...there is more important things.
 
It's amusing to see Berkeley socialist hipsters getting all pissy over socialist laws. A good portion of those commie nutters don't even believe in private property or personal wealth.

Now suddenly they act like Libertarians when some poor sap gets shook down by Cops for not following community permit laws?
 
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Fluffernutter said:
This is a good point. Hot dogs are already pre-prepared. Can you even get sick from eating a hot dog straight out of the package? Not that I want to...
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most are pre cooked these days, but they still have to be handled correctly and best food safety practice would be cooking them before serving. And of course you should to have traceability on vending of foods in case there is ever an outbreak of food borne illness.
 
should've just gave him a ticket and told him to shake the spot. cop obviously had nothing better to do
 
JosephDredd said:
Civil asset forfeiture. The cops can seize whatever the fuck they want from people. Cash, cars, boats, houses. No proof of wrongdoing necessary. I don't even think they give a receipt.
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welcome to the new police state. enjoy your stay...citizen.
 
Should of given him a ticket and moved on. Cop wasn't very bright now its going to cost the city money and possibly him his job.
 
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