Ponzi Scheme Legal: SBG and Gunni Appeal Denied by UFC

Lol at people complaining over this. The eye pokes weren't obvious until watching the replays after the fight. Gunnar didn't appear to be overly bothered by any of them and it's understandable the ref didn't catch them in real time. There's nothing to appeal here.
 
That209 said:
The fighter doesn't stop the fight when an eye poke happens. It's entirely up to the ref. Unfortunately Ponzinibbio was very sneaky with the constant eye pokes and the ref didn't see them. It happens sometimes. We've seen tons of fighters get poked, try to signal to the ref and the ref tells them to keep fighting. Gunnar was not fine. You don't get poked that many times and not be effected very negatively. I'm not saying that's why he lost 'cause he may have lost either way even without the pokes, but the point still stands - Ponzi poked him like 6 f'n times in just a few minutes, clearly on purpose. If you were Gunnar or any other fighter that had to deal with this, you'd be pissed too.
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He never complained once, so how bad was it?
 
Really enjoyed the way he dropped.

Good Night everyone... I am going to take a snooooze!!!
 
Irishwhiskey119 said:
Ponz eye pokes were horrible in this fight.

I'm not sure the right thing to do here but this could be viewed worse than PED's in how it can win a fight.
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While it looked bad in the photos, did it really affect Gunni?
 
Great thread title

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Hardkore said:
1 time, Jones is infamous for it
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I'm almost certain I've seen Ponzi poke someone else. He's a striker with 9 UFC fights so it would be odd if these were his only pokes.
 
The Conor proxy hate that Gunnar is getting is hilarious.
 
Hardkore said:
https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/9/...loss-to-santiago-ponzinibbio-due-to-eye-pokes
http://www.punditarena.com/mmaufc/sraftery/gunnar-nelson-ufc-upheld-loss/
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Gunnar Nelson was appealing a loss to Santiago Ponzinibbio from July in Scotland. The basis of that challenge was that Ponzinibbio poked Nelson in the eye seconds before a knockout punch finished Nelson in the first round at UFC Glasgow.

According to multiple members of Nelson’s team — and Nelson himself — on social media, the appeal was denied by the UFC this week. And Nelson’s management and coaches are none too pleased by the decision. Nelson and team were hoping the result would be overturned to at least a no contest.

“There was no time to signal to the referee between the final eye poke and the KO blow,” wrote John Kavanagh, one of Nelson’s coaches at SBG Ireland, on Facebook. “It was a 'fight ending foul'. What the UFC, athletic commissions and MMA officials have to ask themselves is is eye gouging legal?”

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Did Fili appeal his loss to Yair? Which happened in the same fashion. Did he even bring it up more then once after the fight? Did the coaches at UF bring it up if it wasn't directly asked? SBG and all involved over there, seem to be premaddonas, spoiled and feel entitled over there.
 
YellowBanenoo said:
He was never fine, he clearly showed discomfort by rubbing his eyes right after getting eyepoked.

Gunnar himself stated he didn't want ref to stop the fight because he thought he had Ponzi hurt.

Ponzi obviously took the advantage of this and landed clean shot along with more eyepokes and finished Gunnar. Mofo is one dirty ass fighter.
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So you just admit Gunnar himself wasn't concerned with the eye poke and continued because he thought his opponent was hurt.. but then he gets beat and now wants to appeal his own decision to continue on in the fight? Those SBG kids, are a special kind of odd over there.
 
not even gunnar complained in the fight. fair loss

and as I said before, eyepoke = automatically deduct a point
 
FinBJJ said:
I'm almost certain I've seen Ponzi poke someone else. He's a striker with 9 UFC fights so it would be odd if these were his only pokes.
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So you go from "almost certain", to a biased opinion? Typical sherdog mentality..
 
Fat loudmouth and attention whore John McCarthy made a huge deal about getting the rules changed so fighters couldn't extend their fingers to create an unsafe environment where opponents feared advancing or attacking. Fat John had the perfect fight to enforce this new rule with Nunes extending her fingers ILLEGALLY over 100 times recently. Fat loudmouth John did nothing but warn Nunes over and over. He never took a point, and this is even after hundreds of fouls and dozens of warnings.

Attention whore fat John even complimented Nunes when she finally spent 3 seconds NOT using the illegal technique. So if the guy who fought to change the rule refuses to enforce it, then yes, attempted eye pokes and eye gouges are one of the best ways to win a fight. The refs are pathetic. The commissions are pathetic. Fighter safety is pathetic.

I advise fighters to extend their fingers and poke/gouge and hurt people and then attack when they blind people. Why not?
 
agibmxmma said:
So you just admit Gunnar himself wasn't concerned with the eye poke and continued because he thought his opponent was hurt.. but then he gets beat and now wants to appeal his own decision to continue on in the fight? Those SBG kids, are a special kind of odd over there.
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Yeah, I see no problem with that. Whether you power though eyepokes or not. It's still illegal and it's evident it had an effect on Gunni's vision greatly.
 
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