Ponzi Scheme Legal: SBG and Gunni Appeal Denied by UFC

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https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/9/...loss-to-santiago-ponzinibbio-due-to-eye-pokes
http://www.punditarena.com/mmaufc/sraftery/gunnar-nelson-ufc-upheld-loss/
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Gunnar Nelson was appealing a loss to Santiago Ponzinibbio from July in Scotland. The basis of that challenge was that Ponzinibbio poked Nelson in the eye seconds before a knockout punch finished Nelson in the first round at UFC Glasgow.

According to multiple members of Nelson’s team — and Nelson himself — on social media, the appeal was denied by the UFC this week. And Nelson’s management and coaches are none too pleased by the decision. Nelson and team were hoping the result would be overturned to at least a no contest.

“There was no time to signal to the referee between the final eye poke and the KO blow,” wrote John Kavanagh, one of Nelson’s coaches at SBG Ireland, on Facebook. “It was a 'fight ending foul'. What the UFC, athletic commissions and MMA officials have to ask themselves is is eye gouging legal?”

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I have to agree on this one. But we all know you have better odds at winning the lottery than getting a decision overturned
 
Ponz eye pokes were horrible in this fight.

I'm not sure the right thing to do here but this could be viewed worse than PED's in how it can win a fight.
 
In the UFC we have rules!

But rarely enforce them..
 
They better rematch. Some real bullshit on that one.
 
Nothing against Gunnar, but I'm glad this got denied because fuck that cuck Kavanagh.
 
I would just be happy if the refs just enforced the rules.

Don't extend an open hand to your opponents face. First ones a warning, second one and after are point deductions.

Some eye pokes are intentional, but a lot aren't. But 100% of them result from extending an open hand to your opponents face. Which is supposed to be illegal now. But it is most definitely not being enforced.

This problem gets fixed in the camps and training rooms, not in Octagons. It's a hard wired habit for most fighters at this point. What we need is strict enforcement of the new rules and a few high profile DQ's for repeated infractions. Then the camps will train the practice away.
 
I guess Gunny couldn't see that left hand after the eyepokes.








:rolleyes:
 
He poked him in the eyes like 6 times before finally dropping n finishing him. Watch the whole fight instead of just the end.
I mean, there were SEVERAL eyepokes before that sequence. Are you intentionally trying be dumb ?

Nelson never complain to the referee. He was fine. And he lost to a better striker. It's as simple as that.

Time to stop crying and deal with it.
 
Nelson never complain to the referee. He was fine. And he lost to a better striker. It's as simple as that.

Time to stop crying and deal with it.

He was never fine, he clearly showed discomfort by rubbing his eyes right after getting eyepoked.

Gunnar himself stated he didn't want ref to stop the fight because he thought he had Ponzi hurt.

Ponzi obviously took the advantage of this and landed clean shot along with more eyepokes and finished Gunnar. Mofo is one dirty ass fighter.
 
this is ridiculous
the biggest eye poke happened in the very first punch thrown in the fight and gunni just whipped off cause at the time he was getting the best in the fight
and so he did after any other eye poking till he got clipped by a counter an ko'ed 3 seconds later, 3 FUCKING SECONDS....
Just lost a lot of respect for Gunnar, who was aways a class act, and his camp
 
Nelson never complain to the referee. He was fine. And he lost to a better striker. It's as simple as that.

Time to stop crying and deal with it.

The fighter doesn't stop the fight when an eye poke happens. It's entirely up to the ref. Unfortunately Ponzinibbio was very sneaky with the constant eye pokes and the ref didn't see them. It happens sometimes. We've seen tons of fighters get poked, try to signal to the ref and the ref tells them to keep fighting. Gunnar was not fine. You don't get poked that many times and not be effected very negatively. I'm not saying that's why he lost 'cause he may have lost either way even without the pokes, but the point still stands - Ponzi poked him like 6 f'n times in just a few minutes, clearly on purpose. If you were Gunnar or any other fighter that had to deal with this, you'd be pissed too.
 
Gunnar should go the Chisea route and challenge the referee to a fight.
 
Nelson never complain to the referee. He was fine. And he lost to a better striker. It's as simple as that.

Time to stop crying and deal with it.
Michael Bisping stopped to talk to the ref in the middle of the Anderson fight and almost got KO'd, and people criticise him for it. Gunnar doesn't stop to talk to the ref and people criticise him for it.
 
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