Discussion in 'The War Room' started by HomerThompson, Mar 12, 2018.
I know that if Porton Down was situated in the outer Hebrides people that wanted to see the situation in Salisbury a certain way still would .
The Russians are demanding samples of the nerve agent.
To be honest, it's just posturing on the part of the Russians.
The U.S. has killed tons of people on the streets of tons of cities, give financial and military support to all sorts of terrorist groups, and are responsible for shooting down Iran Air Flight 655 which killed 290 people.
So, where's the dead American president being paraded through streets by terrorists?
None of those acts were a direct attack on my country.
So? It's not like the U.K. government wouldn't still have samples of their own. What are they afraid of by not releasing the evidence? Being proven wrong?
It's just posturing on both sides..... because like Russia said, they have nukes. But so does England. So they'll just trade words, state department officials will have lunch together, and nothing will really happen.
There's no proof that Gadaffi is behind the attack to begin with.
The Russians will, "test" the sample, then claim it was not made in a Russian lab. They are just trying to muddy the waters.
And maybe the UK doesn't want Russia to have access to the sample because they will be proven innocent, which is why they're proclaiming them guilty without giving any evidence (much like the Syria gas attacks).
That works both ways.
You mean apart from Gadaffi accepting responsibility for the attack and paying compensation to the relatives of some of the victims in 2003?
Russia is a Mafia state. Britain, for all it's faults, is a democracy. Even were I a neutral observer, it would be an easy call as to who I would tend to believe.
Claiming responsibility and actually ordering it to be done are two separate things.
He always denied ordering it to be done.
Putin said we should give him the evidence.
There was no paper trail linking Hitler to the Holocaust. Are you saying Hitler wasn't responsible?
But why would the UK claim it was Russia when that is not correct.
There is no upside for the UK out of this. They would prefer if it wasn't Russia.
Same as I can't imagine the Russian wanted this to go down this way with so much exposure.
Something must have gone wrong somewhere.
The United States is a democracy and yet they completely lied about WMDs in Iraq and invaded the country on those lies.
So why are democracies so inherently believable? Because CNN says so?
Also, there is no reason for the UK to blame Russia for it if they aren't sure.
Like on top of all the trouble the UK has at the moment. The last thing they need is a diplomatic crisis with Russia.
It just doesn't make any sense for any logical thinking person.
You mean why is the West uniting against Russia?
Because there are checks and balances in a democratic nation. Don't like what your government is doing in your name? Protest against it. Vote out the politicians you feel do not have your nation's best interests at heart. Those are your rights under the American Constitution, or the legal system of the United Kingdom.
Try the same thing in Russia and, if you are very, very lucky, you'll just be thrown in jail. If you're unlucky, a bullet in the head isn't even the worse thing that can happen.
I'm going to do you the courtesy of assuming you are playing Devil's Advocate in this thread. Not many people are stupid enough to actually suggest a moral equivalency between Putin's Russia and the UK or America.
Congratulations, you win a cookie. So many people are so determined to find a conspiracy they forget to ask the most obvious question: Cue Bono? Who profits? The UK has more than enough problems at the moment without going to absurd lengths to pick a fight with one of the most powerful and aggressive nations on earth.
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