Please post ONE no go zone in the UK. challenge to the whole war room.

Did you click on the link?
I agree that there are a few safe strips of Detroit but police response times hit 58 minutes in 2013, that's if they even showed up, Detroit police probably have the only argument in the country for government employees to have a union.

Yea clicked it that sign isnt real dude its a mock up .

A big part of the problem with policing Detroit is that the city is huge but the population has really shrunk so theres tons of abandoned shit with a real house here and there and so the police have a budget for the population but an area twice the size to cover. Youd be better off eminent domaning people so they all live in the same part of town and shrinking the area they have to patrol and respond to than you would handing the police a blank check.

Also liberal policy didnt kill detroit so much as the world changed and didnt need us to produce like we used to which made the city lose a ton of money very quickly while still having a large population and its just rotted from there. The fact that every mayor and city council member and real estate developer rips the city off every chance they get really doesnt help either. If you want to be sick to your stomach do some reading on all the money that just up and disappeared when the casinos , the ball parks , the people mover , the new barn for the wings and any other major project get greenlit. Its sick. Then they always promise to pay the city back or it will create all these jobs and profits but somehow the city never sees a dime of it.

I love the city and the people in it but it is a cesspool when it comes to the politics and I dont mean left and right I mean stealing and trading favors. It can be very frustrating at times and progress is very slow and often comes with a lot of hidden costs and setbacks that the rest of wayne county always get saddled with . I love that every election canton and livonia and the like always have some bill or proposal about some new millage or tax that will help dps or this detroit thing and people always vote it down with a hell no.
 
Yea clicked it that sign isnt real dude its a mock up .

A big part of the problem with policing Detroit is that the city is huge but the population has really shrunk so theres tons of abandoned shit with a real house here and there and so the police have a budget for the population but an area twice the size to cover. Youd be better off eminent domaning people so they all live in the same part of town and shrinking the area they have to patrol and respond to than you would handing the police a blank check.

Also liberal policy didnt kill detroit so much as the world changed and didnt need us to produce like we used to which made the city lose a ton of money very quickly while still having a large population and its just rotted from there. The fact that every mayor and city council member and real estate developer rips the city off every chance they get really doesnt help either. If you want to be sick to your stomach do some reading on all the money that just up and disappeared when the casinos , the ball parks , the people mover , the new barn for the wings and any other major project get greenlit. Its sick. Then they always promise to pay the city back or it will create all these jobs and profits but somehow the city never sees a dime of it.

I love the city and the people in it but it is a cesspool when it comes to the politics and I dont mean left and right I mean stealing and trading favors. It can be very frustrating at times and progress is very slow and often comes with a lot of hidden costs and setbacks that the rest of wayne county always get saddled with . I love that every election canton and livonia and the like always have some bill or proposal about some new millage or tax that will help dps or this detroit thing and people always vote it down with a hell no.

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What about this sign, lol. But I was in Detroit a month ago and it does have a cool zombie feel to it but its business climate definitely drove business away. Kwame shaking down contractors, Coleman Young telling blacks to burn down white homes, outrages taxes that no one on the city council pay, every family relative working for the city council..... Like you said a culture of corruption rooted in every Democratic run city
 
What about this sign, lol. But I was in Detroit a month ago and it does have a cool zombie feel to it but its business climate definitely drove business away. Kwame shaking down contractors, Coleman Young telling blacks to burn down white homes, outrages taxes that no one on the city council pay, every family relative working for the city council..... Like you said a culture of corruption rooted in every Democratic run city

Look at the bottom of that billboard .....

ANytime you see signs like that they are going to be mockups like haha detroits a hellhole or police union propaganda . The signs arent official is my point I apologize if my wording wasnt right and my meaning unclear. Of course cops are going to say youre unsafe we need more money as it is in the police best interest to convince you that is true
 
Look at the bottom of that billboard .....

ANytime you see signs like that they are going to be mockups like haha detroits a hellhole or police union propaganda . The signs arent official is my point I apologize if my wording wasnt right and my meaning unclear. Of course cops are going to say youre unsafe we need more money as it is in the police best interest to convince you that is true

OOps my bad, there was a Detroit one that I cant find right now.
Oh I agree with ya that it is political and they are trying to cash in on their job being dangerous from a city that cant support their services. Are you a Detroit hipster? Would you do that job for 45k a year?


 
OOps my bad, there was a Detroit one that I cant find right now.
Oh I agree with ya that it is political and they are trying to cash in on their job being dangerous from a city that cant support their services. Are you a Detroit hipster? Would you do that job for 45k a year?

Not a hipster I dont think but raised in and around the city and into a lot of local music so im pretty familiar with the city and the metro area and rather fond of most of it good and bad alike. I take the Detroit stuff kinda personal cuz I have always felt a connection with this place and feel like Robert E Lee did about his Virginia.
 
Please use the quote feature so I don't have to continue correcting your dishonesty.

That's clearly not what I said, but at this point you seem hopelessly desperate to be right. The fact of the matter is that Watson's statements implied that Sweden as a whole is not a safe country. You continue to run in circles avoiding dealing with that issue head on. That suggests you are not only dishonest, but a simple coward.

That is literally exactly what you said:

PJW claiming that one of the most historically safe nations in the world is no longer safe (without presenting proof) is insane, and he considers himself a journalist. Just inexcusable.
I'm not sure why you think lots of women getting raped is safe as long as overall murders are still lower than some shit hole in Eastern Europe.

Pot kettle black about just wanting to be right. 'A simple coward' hahaha what the actual fuck are you on about?
 
Idk man, Tommy Robinson didn't start that interaction, the Muslim guy approached him and started in with him, then assaulted him in under two minutes. Perhaps not for police, but for gays and non-Muslims doesn't seem they're too welcome.

Meh, I wouldn't class Tommy Morrison, ex leader of the EDL, as your average non-muslim though. When whites want a cheap curry on a Saturday night they seem pretty comfortable in the so called "no-go areas".
 
Ali was a hateful bigot. His words on homosexuals and mixing races would disgust people today. He's a bad example of whatever point you're making.

Ali was justified in his so called "bigotry" at the time.
 
Brentford

My family all comes from Brentford but they were forced out in the 70's by the Indian Community that took over the place. My mum said that by the time they moved she was one of two English children in a class of 30.

* not sure what it's like these days I've not been there since the 90's
 
That is literally exactly what you said:


I'm not sure why you think lots of women getting raped is safe as long as overall murders are still lower than some shit hole in Eastern Europe.

Pot kettle black about just wanting to be right. 'A simple coward' hahaha what the actual fuck are you on about?
You're again hiding behind the "safe in terms of..." argument? The general assessment of a country's safety isn't reduced to one crime stat. And that wasn't even the point Watson was making, so you don't even understand what you're defending. Its shocking how stupid you are.
 
Brentford

My family all comes from Brentford but they were forced out in the 70's by the Indian Community that took over the place. My mum said that by the time they moved she was one of two English children in a class of 30.

* not sure what it's like these days I've not been there since the 90's
more likely they were racists that moved because they hated having non english people in their area.
 
haha fair point
-Stamford hill I imagine is a very jewish neighborhood in London?

Either way, violence and isolating your neighborhoods is never a way to resolve long term issues.
-I do sense a bit of history between the driver and the leader in the video.
-Like I said, I personally have never had a problem but if my friends have been asked "what are you doing around here?" and told "you're not supposed to be in this area, this is a muslim community"; that isn't exactly an ideal response for a community hoping to be integrated into the UK culture and live peacefully within its borders.
--Full disclosure, my friends are Arsenal FC and Chelsea FC fans, so they are a bit weird in that fact.
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the reality is british cities are diverse. stamford hill is a diverse place to live. luton is a diverse place to live. racism is why these places become known for one group or another.

the reality is luton is tiny, but if we look at the county then ...

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then its a murder rate of 1.83 in its worst year.

so i dont see how any american can talk shit when thats better all their major cites, and as far as states go it is in line with Massachusetts, Nebraska and Wyoming.
 
the reality is british cities are diverse. stamford hill is a diverse place to live. luton is a diverse place to live. racism is why these places become known for one group or another.

the reality is luton is tiny, but if we look at the county then ...

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then its a murder rate of 1.83 in its worst year.

so i dont see how any american can talk shit when thats better all their major cites, and as far as states go it is in line with Massachusetts, Nebraska and Wyoming.


One key variable in this comparison of Manslaughter metrics is the access to guns;
(legal in the US, But banned in the UK)
'Violent crimes' in general might be a better metric for comparison.

I haven't had an issue but I have heard of quite a few places not to venture out to, especially late at night(every country has these, though my buddies said their level of aggression was quite high)
-I am going off word of mouth, my buddies lived in the UK for a few years and shared a few experiences of being told to leave certain neighborhoods;
I have never had any trouble around London or Manchester(city centre or neighborhoods slightly off the beaten path)
 
the reality is british cities are diverse. stamford hill is a diverse place to live. luton is a diverse place to live. racism is why these places become known for one group or another.

the reality is luton is tiny, but if we look at the county then ...

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then its a murder rate of 1.83 in its worst year.

so i dont see how any american can talk shit when thats better all their major cites, and as far as states go it is in line with Massachusetts, Nebraska and Wyoming.
Could you please just go ahead and change your name to Luton? Thanks in advance.
 
You're again hiding behind the "safe in terms of..." argument? The general assessment of a country's safety isn't reduced to one crime stat. And that wasn't even the point Watson was making, so you don't even understand what you're defending. Its shocking how stupid you are.
Yeah yeah I know you're so smart I'm so stupid Sweden doesn't have a Muslim problem everything's fine.

Just out of interest, what point do YOU think Paul Joseph Watson was trying to make in the video I provided and how do you think he failed to prove it? Can you provide some examples of things he said which aren't true. Should be easy if what he was saying is 'inexcusable'.
 
Yeah yeah I know you're so smart I'm so stupid Sweden doesn't have a Muslim problem everything's fine.
It's once again shocking how you keep propping this up as if it was ever the subject. I have a lot of posts on sherdog, but I can't remember speaking to anyone this blatantly dishonest and ignorant.
 
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