Peter Schiff on Joe Rogan Experience

There's a difference between being able to observe the absence of a phenomenon and being able to prove the absence, you knob.
You were wrong but if you want to drag this out I am ok with that you dork.

If JAck has no proof on that topic then he simply should not state as if factual that he does and Jack has already recognized that.

It is one thing to say 'prove to me you have never molested a child' and quite another for me to say 'Trotsky did not make any money last year, last week or in a certain year'. The latter ASSUMES a specific knowledge and information.
 
I'm against the minimum wage (with some preconditions, obviously) and I'm a communist.

Haha you’re not a communist. You’re a wannabe. How do you make a living?
 
Schiff's a complete hack who goes on Molyneaux once a month claiming the sky is going to fall, put all your money into gold, etc. He usually even gives an exact date, or at least he used, I haven't paid attention for at least 3 years, but I'm sure he's still peddling the same shit. If he ever makes an accurate prediction, just remember that a broken clock is right twice a day.
 
I wish everyone in D.C. would come to the sherdog war room to get schooled by a forum full of 6'5" 265 lb athletic alpha pimp billionares.
 
Sure:

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/01/peter-schiff-was-wrong.html

Search for "an actual Schiff portfolio."

This is an old issue and was much-discussed. Given that it was a common-knowledge thing, I didn't bother. Then the guy who was asking said it could be Googled, and I asked him if he did, and he indicated that he did and seemed satisfied.

If you were around the WR in 2011-2013 or so, Schiff was talked about as much as Peterson is now (or was a few months ago--seems to be drying out).
No, Schiff was never that big, but yeah, I recall everyone debating whether or not he "predicted" the Great Recession. He had some big threads. That got exhausting.
 
You are definitely overestimating the average human. Rogan is certainly smarter than the median person.

Did about half of your graduating high school class go to college? Okay, now think of the most intellectually unimpressive guy that got into college: that's' your median citizen. That person probably doesn't know if Obama was a Republican or Democrat or, conversely, shares chain forwards on Facebook about the university professor who taught all his students about socialism by giving everyone a C-.
I think it's more that Rogan is too stupid for the kind of conversation he tries to have. It's like he's always trying to unravel the truth behind every subject he explores and always tackling complex issues. You can applaud him for his curiosity while also recognizing that he's hopelessly intellectually unequipped for the task. His defense always being that he's "just asking questions".

So certainly smarter than the average person, but way below the mark in what he's trying to accomplish.
 
Here's OT on Brock/Jones and on whatever happened to Ricardo Arona:
The "what happened to Ricardo Arona" conundrum has always been kinda amusing to me. He more or less disappeared from the public eye but it his whereabouts have never exactly been a secret. Dude just lives in a beach that's truly a little slice of heaven giving out surf, MMA and jiu jitsu classes and selling apparel. Probably doesn't make bank but I doubt he's facing any difficulty either.

Oh and he still stands by every single excuse he's ever given after a loss and still teases a possible MMA return every time someone asks him.
 
I agree. He seems to be somewhat intellectually curious and tends to defer to people he realizes know more than him.

And this makes him an above average thinker - realizing when he's out of his depth.
 
You are definitely overestimating the average human. Rogan is certainly smarter than the median person.

Did about half of your graduating high school class go to college? Okay, now think of the most intellectually unimpressive guy that got into college: that's' your median citizen. That person probably doesn't know if Obama was a Republican or Democrat or, conversely, shares chain forwards on Facebook about the university professor who taught all his students about socialism by giving everyone a C-.
I agree. He seems to be somewhat intellectually curious and tends to defer to people he realizes know more than him.

When left to his own devices though.....
I guess that's what it is. It takes some intelligence to realize you're not smart, and it takes some intelligence to maintain that curiosity. But it's unbearable when he thinks for himself. Douchechills and facepalms nonstop. That's probably above average. Also, frightening.
 
I love Peter Schiff. Great basic economics lesson in that video.

Even if you have really studied both Schiff and actual economics and somehow think that Schiff is not a moron, you have to realize that what he says is very much not "basic economics" and, in fact, contradicts basic economics.
 
Well, he makes money from his show and from conning rubes. What I'm saying is that his investing strategy is based around profiting from a crash and then when there was a big one, he didn't profit off it. Without exaggeration, a monkey could do better than him (assuming an untrained monkey rather than one that has learned or independently come up with Austrian "economics").



The issue is that he's stuck in the (early) 19th century, or he'd say that all knowledge attained since then is misleading or something. Early economists thought in terms of gluts and shortages. So if people shift from liking coffee to tea, coffee starts going unsold, shops are going out of business, etc., tea shops start seeing long lines and/or selling out of product. It looks like coffee is now too expensive and tea is too cheap, and the market corrects that, leading to more tea being produced/less coffee being produced and then to prices stabilizing. The thinking was that every trend toward a glut is balanced by one toward a shortage. But at times, it appeared that there was a "general glut" with no balancing shortage (think of the Great Depression). Everything seems too expensive suddenly. Some people thought that was a logical impossibility, but J.S. Mill figured out how to explain it within the glut/shortage framework. The shortage was in (think about it for a second if you want a challenge) ... money itself. To us, that was not the end but the beginning of the debate (rather than money, is it actually safe assets? high-quality assets? a mix?). That leads to a natural solution (if you think it's money as Friedman did, print more money; if you think it's safe assets, issue more bonds; etc.).

Well, Schiff never got the memo. He thinks that there was a period of "malinvestment" where the economy was built around false signals and thus we're effectively *unable* to supply the needs of consumers. So to go back to the coffee example, people still want it, but it just can't be made. In addition to this being obvious rot (just think about it), you can devise any number of tests to check it and see that it's rot. It also explains why he keeps predicting hyperinflation. If he's right, putting more money/safe assets/gov't spending into the system doesn't do anything to fix the problem and so you have the same constraints on production but more money to spend on the low number of goods. Should just drive prices way up without increasing growth. For the civilized among us, the Great Depression and WWII put an end to the debate. The aftermath of the GFC (both the impact of austerity in nations that went that route and the impact of fiscal and monetary stimulus in the U.S.) should have taught people who didn't learn from history.

Great post

Could you not step it back and say the shortage was demand (aggregate demand or something like that) and the debate is what do you need to get it going again (safe assets, money in circulation, etc.)?
 
Even if you have really studied both Schiff and actual economics and somehow think that Schiff is not a moron, you have to realize that what he says is very much not "basic economics" and, in fact, contradicts basic economics.

What did he say that "contradicted basic economics"?
 
Great post

Could you not step it back and say the shortage was demand (aggregate demand or something like that) and the debate is what do you need to get it going again (safe assets, money in circulation, etc.)?

Yes, but I think that's a little too abstract (it's not wrong but it's a slightly different approach). If we want to find a concrete shortage, we look to something more physical in nature. I think the question is kind of "why is there a demand shortage?"
 
Great post

Could you not step it back and say the shortage was demand (aggregate demand or something like that) and the debate is what do you need to get it going again (safe assets, money in circulation, etc.)?

Haha... no. "Money in circulation" was what caused the bubble.
 
His whole approach does. See the post that Gandhi just responded to.

You are one of those morons who reads Peter Krugman and thinks that the Federal Reserve "got us out" of the great depression rather than prolonging it and fueling more malinvestment, right? Hahaha....
 
Think about that for a second; He took money from people, lost it, but somehow made a personal profit. Read between the lines: he's a fucking con-man.

Maybe not all his investments are in the stock market?
 
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