Opinions on Jim Cornette?

[My Spot]

Everybody from SMW got paid and NXT is OVW.

 

[My Spot]

To be fair with the second line, Nick Dinsmore was definitely the far superior wrestler and at the time, equal to Cena on the mic.

Plenty of guys have been far superior wrestlers to Cena...

 

[D.R.H.]

He made Glen Jacobs into a wrestling Christmas tree in SMW and wanted to push the likes of Nick Dinsmore, Rob Conway, and the Damaja over Cena in OVW.

When Cena was in OVW he sucked donkey balls. Let's not forgot that although the you can't wrestle chants at Cena are stupid now, 15 years ago they were dead on.

 

[My Spot]

When Cena was in OVW he sucked donkey balls. Let's not forgot that although the you can't wrestle chants at Cena are stupid now, 15 years ago they were dead on.

And yet Cena rose above the hate and became one of the biggest stars in the history of the sport while Dinsmore will always be remembered as Bischoff's retarded cousin and Conway for getting fired by Vince.

 

[D.R.H.]

And yet Cena rose above the hate and became one of the biggest stars in the history of the sport while Dinsmore will always be remembered as Bischoff's retarded cousin and Conway for getting fired by Vince.

Cornette had nothing to do with the Eugene character so how exactly is Vince & Co ruining Dinsmore's career indicative of Corny being wrong about him? Cornette has never said Cena should never have been pushed...he didn't want to push him when he was green? You're argument doesn't make any sense...Dinsmore was a far better choice to push at a local regional show than a brand new green as all hell Cena who was still learning the ropes.

 

[My Spot]

Cornette had nothing to do with the Eugene character so how exactly is Vince & Co ruining Dinsmore's career indicative of Corny being wrong about him? Cornette has never said Cena should never have been pushed...he didn't want to push him when he was green? You're argument doesn't make any sense...Dinsmore was a far better choice to push at a local regional show than a brand new green as all hell Cena who was still learning the ropes.

Right, let's worship the guy who thought an NWA "invasion" of Attitude Era WWE with the "New" Midnight Express was a good idea.

 

[D.R.H.]

Right, let's worship the guy who thought an NWA "invasion" of Attitude Era WWE with the "New" Midnight Express was a good idea.

That's nice dodge there...so I take it you're backpedalling on the idea that prototype should have been WWF champion in 2000?

 

[My Spot]

That's nice dodge there...so I take it you're backpedalling on the idea that prototype should have been WWF champion in 2000?

Speaking of dodging...

 

[D.R.H.]

Speaking of dodging...

Cornette hated the New Midnight Express and the invasion angle looks stupid now, but if I remember right that idea of the invasion came around during the NWO heyday and before Austin took off, so in context it wasn't the worst idea floated...they were getting creamed then and still directionless. Now defend 2000 prototype as world champ...or just dodge again like a jackass.

 

[My Spot]

Cornette hated the New Midnight Express and the invasion angle looks stupid now, but if I remember right that idea of the invasion came around during the NWO heyday and before Austin took off, so in context it wasn't the worst idea floated...they were getting creamed then and still directionless. Now defend 2000 prototype as world champ...or just dodge again like a jackass.

Defend Eugene as world champ.

 

[D.R.H.]

Defend Eugene as world champ.

Eugene should never have existed and provide one example of myself or Cornette ever saying otherwise. Dinsmore on the other hand as a regional show champ is fine...he's solid in his work and seems like a fairly reliable guy.

 

[GSPSAKU]

And yet Cena rose above the hate and became one of the biggest stars in the history of the sport while Dinsmore will always be remembered as Bischoff's retarded cousin and Conway for getting fired by Vince.

HP, you said Cornette was an idiot for wanting to push Dinsmore over Cena. At their respective stages in their career, outside of the body, Cena was inferior to Dinsmore in every way.

Now you are basing it on overall career and using hindsight to prove yourself right.

Defend Eugene as world champ.

You basically changed the entire scenario. Your basis as to why Cornette was horrible was because he thought Dinsmore was better than Cena. From '99-01, EVERYONE had Dinsmore pegged as the next great wrestler out of OVW and not Cena.

To Dinsmore's credit, he got Eugene over but really, after being Eugene, you can never come back from that gimmick. Fans can't take you seriously after that.

 

[D.R.H.]

Why do you got to take my arguments Saku and make them all polite and cordial?

 

[My Spot]

HP, you said Cornette was an idiot for wanting to push Dinsmore over Cena. At their respective stages in their career, outside of the body, Cena was inferior to Dinsmore in every way.

You basically changed the entire scenario. Your basis as to why Cornette was horrible was because he thought Dinsmore was better than Cena. From '99-01, EVERYONE had Dinsmore pegged as the next great wrestler out of OVW and not Cena.

"Everyone?" Wade Keller and Meltzer?

 

[GSPSAKU]

"Everyone?" Wade Keller and Meltzer?

Typical lol. When you have no comeback, post pointless memes. How about some thought, ey? Leads to better discussions

All of the wrestlers in OVW, the entire lockerroom thought it was Dinsmore and a bit later on, Lesnar who would break out and be champion. Cena was so mechanical in his movement, moveset, and even in his promo delivery.

 

[D.R.H.]

Side note since Power mentioned Meltzer...fuck that guy in the ear.

 

[My Spot]

Typical lol. When you have no comeback, post pointless memes. How about some thought, ey? Leads to better discussions

All of the wrestlers in OVW, the entire lockerroom thought it was Dinsmore and a bit later on, Lesnar who would break out and be champion. Cena was so mechanical in his movement, moveset, and even in his promo delivery.

"Cena was inferior to Dinsmore in every way."

Spoiler

 

[D.R.H.]

Nice of you to leave out the first half of that quote and remove all context there sparky.