Opinions on H&K USP Pistols?

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  1. Chesten_Hesten

    Chesten_Hesten The Wiener of Steel

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    Found myself looking at one of these online: Elite 45. (I fuckin like 45s)
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    Expert:
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    No particular reason really. No reason to believe its worth a shit, but it got me to wondering. Is it worth a shit?

    Does anyone here happen to own a USP in 45, 40 or "other"?

    What's your consensus?

    How is the trigger? and how is it compared to what?

    How's the accuracy? 25 yards? 50 Yards?

    How's the recoil, muzzle whip and indexing out of a holster?

    How big is the grip compared to say a 1911?

    Magazines? Overpriced?

    Abundance of Holsters etc?

    Is it really worth a shit or just another overpriced uppity euro-trash branded double/single action plastic ass pistol?

    WTF over?

    And if you don't have any practical experience with one for god sakes have the decency to leave a smart ass remark.

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    Chesten_Hesten The Wiener of Steel

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    Now I'm already beginning to think the HK is prolly shit for the money spent.

    Get a load of this:

    Springfield Range Officer: $780
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    From A Customer Review for the Above:




    Or the one without Adj Sights: $760
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    Not to mention guns like:

    Smith & Wesson M&P M2.0 45 ACP $416
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    Chesten_Hesten The Wiener of Steel

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    One of the tests for the HK said, its superb accuracy thanks to a "RUBBER Oring" round the barrel!
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    What happens to the accuracy when that Oring fails and comes off?
     
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    I've shot a usp 40 & 45. It was a while ago. I can't help with a lot of your questions. Trigger wasn't great, reset was terrible. Didn't do any accuracy work, recoil and flip didn't seem anything out of the ordinary. I'm sure the elite and expert are probably a bit better.


    O-ring is mostly a gimmick. You might see a marginal improvement from a mechanical rest.


    This is a bit more spendy than what you've posted but you could look at the Sig P220 SAO Legion. Street price is $1200. They have a da/sa but the sao is where it's at imo.

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    I haven't shot the 220 but the P226 SAO Legion is incredible. Sub 4lb brake, very crisp, good reset, soft shooting, great sights.
     
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    Chesten_Hesten The Wiener of Steel

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    That's enough right there.
    Sounds like posh designer shit for the money spent.


    You ever have one of these things? Golani Sporter? Buddy of mine is trying to sell me his. He swears its not a problem one and says it shoots like a motherfucker. (as motherfucker as an AK can shoot I guess) I used to have a Galil. It was ok I guess. Have no reason to buy the Golani except they guy lets me hunt on his property all the time. He seems to want a so so reasonable price. Not wild about forking over $700 for a gadget that's be flung in the gun safe for evermore.....
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    I don't know about them, the Galil is one of the few platforms of haven't shot unfortunately.

    You could check the market on gunbroker.
     
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    I've got a fair amount of time behind the USP, and I would take the Sig over it any day. That 220 is a solid piece. I enjoyed mine while I had it, but have moved onto a 226 Extreme and use that as my primary for USPSA matches

    Don't discount the M&P also, I have several and they are superb weapons with a little bit of work. I've got a 9 pro with an Apex kit and Blacklist barrel
     
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    I used to own a Sig P226. Its so tall from the web of your hand to the sights. It was slick and shot well. Construction was press metal and casting.

    I could buy 2 M&Ps mags and ammo for the cost of those Euro guns!

    I need to go see how big the grip is in 45, and what it feels like with the smallest back strap.

    How's the trigger on your M&P? I have a trigger worked XD45 which is pretty nice, but not like my 1911.



    I think he's asking a fair price. The crux of this deal is hunting rights on the property. Its like an Obligation purchase. <{dayum}>
     
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    Edit: just looked up the Apex trigger kit. Looks sweet.

    How's it feel?
     
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    What about the Walther PPQ? The trigger is amazing, ergos superb, very flat shooting. Euro-tastic.
     
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    Crisp, good reset, no complaints
     
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    Works well for my large hands, and I have a very high hold anyhow as I've adapted my stance/grip/hold to a more forward approach that lends better to my movement when I'm working obstacles
     
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    Tbh I was expecting slightly better but it is still very good and a significant upgrade from stock.
     
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    I don't dig the curve in the grip.
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    I like a straight grip. Just me.
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    Chesten_Hesten The Wiener of Steel

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    Did you self install?

    Is that the large backstrap or the smaller one? How much smaller can the grip be made?
     
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    The legion series helps this.

    "It includes a reduced and contoured Elite beavertail, which allows for a higher grip, but a reduced profile, thus eliminating printing. More aggressive front strap checkering and additional checkering under the trigger guard enhance the grip. An X-Five undercut has been applied to the trigger guard, allowing for a higher grip and greater control."

    The sao trigger in my friends legion is awesome. If you have a store around you, you should try to handle a sao legion.
     
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    Prolly North of $1000 right?
     
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    Yes, pretty easy. This is the kit I got.

    https://store.apextactical.com/WebDirect/Products/Details/191836

    Yes that is the largest, it ships with a small, medium and large.

    Mine is the first generation M&P performance center threaded. It came with a ported and threaded barrel.

    https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/performance-center-ported-mp-9-threaded-barrel

    I got it for $565 online.
     
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    Yes, that is the downside. The p226 can be found online right around $999 and the P220 .45 for $1199.

    I figured I'd throw it out there as the hk elite or whatever was a similar price.
     
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