One thing that make Dj more special than other goats

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  1. TheLastEmperorReurns

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    Do you think he could prevent Cruz from taking him to the ground? Do you know how many times he couldn't prevent Cruz from doing that in their fight? Also, Cruz has gotten better too.
     
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    I meant like lightweight minimum. Would be an interesting experiment.
     
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    Dj is incredible but who is gonna put his lights out in one shot? Fedor’s reign at heavyweight was far more impressive. Many of these “cans” Fedor fought had a huge size advantage and could KO someone with one punch. Everyone talks shit about the Zulu fight when Zulu was 5-0 (all knockouts) 6’7” 390lbs and son of a Vale Tudo legend. DJ won’t go up to 135 to fight anyone.
     
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    Damn


    Great insight. Very true about Zulu
     
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    Something oddly similar about Anderson and Johnson is both of their more credible opponents had this moment

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    When they purposely planned to fight in the clinch only to discover it may be their opponent's best position.


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    Easy to evolve in the shittiest division in MMA.
     
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    Easy to say that when you have no knowledge of mma.
    Just stick to being a edgelord
     
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    I wouldn't say he won in the standup. it was virtually identical. He had more volume, but wasn't as accurate.
    http://www.fightmetric.com/fight-details/e2433610f128d963
     
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    Shit, I instinctively ignored it.
     
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    DJ is incredible. He started out in the public eye looking good but fallible like most other men. He then got better and better and better. Now he looks more unbeatable at his weight than most other dominant champs in history.

    He will never receive the same level of public praise as the bigger men despite all this. He also hasn’t yet to prove his skills against larger men where some other GOAT contenders have. That’s not a reason to discount him but people will use that to boost others GOAT candidates.

    Fedor’s reign was awesome because he was the baddest man for 10 years. Smaller men have been more skilled but few have dominated the most dangerous division like Fedor. DJ may be the most skilled of any GOAT contender but he hasn’t risked as much and that is often held against him.

    We generally crap on heavyweight for poor technique but we have so few examples of more skilled lighter fighters stepping up and making big waves.
     
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    I still think Cruz's size and takedowns would be a challenge for DJ, and I could still see MM being taken down a few times. Nonetheless, I think DJ would pull out a decision. I just see Cruz being given less opportunities for takedowns, and could see him getting punished more as he's forced to work harder to make it his kind of fight. Cruz has gotten better, but I don't believe he's made the same strides DJ has.
     
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    Both similarly incredible performances. I do remember Cejudo stated after the bout that he thought the clinch would be a position that favors him.

    Josh Samman also had a great muay thai clinch performance too.
     
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    The 125 lb division being shit is a known fact.

    Keep trying to act like it's stacked though bork1}
     
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    More importantly his level of competition is vastly inferior to the other GOATs.
     
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    He ruled the Pride HW division which was at the time the premier HW division. Yes some cans were thrown in but unlike DJ Fedor didn't make a name off beating predominantly lower tier fighters.
     
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    Dylan Larkin missed it
    yep trye
     
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    I mean Kyoji Horiguchi is putting everyone's lights out despite them being a division bigger then him. That guy is a crazy fun to watch and should soon enough be seen as a Japanese great.

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    But I mean lots of his opponents though, Ali Bagautinov was clearing guys in 25 seconds before the DJ fight. John Dodson is known to knock out fighters. Even John Moraga and Henry Cejudo recently had great KO's.

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    The threat is there, even if it's not the same as at heavyweight (obviously). But DJ has to deal with things heavyweights don't as well.
     
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    I'm sorry but he beats guys that won't ever be mentioned by anyone in 10 years.

    Fedor Anderson GSP Aldo etc have legendary fights on their records. If DJ dominates TJ I'll give it to him. Until then, no fucking way
     
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