So, if we are going to disqualify fighters from the rankings because of positive tests, every record before July 1, 2015 is null and void.
This means UFC MMA has no GOATs, because the modern sport is only 2 years and few months old. The old GOATs mostly tested positive, and GSP is only 1-0 in the UFC-USADA-era.
This is logical thinking. I have no agenda against any fighter. I am just saying if USADA is judging criteria, then logically, we have to disregard anything that was accomplished before July 1, 2015 in order to compare fighters a bit more fairly.
The sport is too young to have a GOAT.
Testing didnt actually start properly till October 1st (first athlete wherabouts submissions were due 30th September) not July 1st. First three months were educational (there was some testing but no out of comp testing)
But anyway, if we disqualify all of Jones fights prior to October 1st, and we disqualify his result against Cormier, then hes left at 1-0 with a win over Ovince St Preux
Anyway, your argument is bollocks.
I prefer to see two era's, pre and post usada. Do i have an issue with fighters doping pre-usada? well, there was no reason not to. Virtually no testing, and what testing there was was largely limited to in competition. A large percentage were doing it and it could be argued you had to to be competitive. Its fine looking at records from that era, but, when comparing then and now, its perfectly fair to take PED use into account when discussing who is the all time greats.
Then theres the post-USADA era, and honestly, anyone whos doping now, when there is a concerted effort by promoter and to a degree fighters, fans and media, to clean up the sport, anyone who hasnt got the message and still uses ped's frankly is a cheating cunt.
as far as goats and all that crap. again, i havetwo views. Theres the list of fighters who have helped develop the sport, that have helped make the sport what it is. The Hall of Famers I guess you could say. In that respect I only take into account what attention they brought, how they helped boost the sports popularity. I dont bring in PED use into that argument so much (although situations like Silva's positive that damage the sport can arguably outweigh what good they have done for the sport).
But the second group, the sporting greats, the fighters who stand and the pinnacle of what can be achieved, yes, ped use disqualifies you from that category
