on a side not the GOAT is fighting soon

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  1. AimedWithV

    AimedWithV Wound in the Force

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    wilKO Green, White & Gold belt

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    wilKO Green, White & Gold belt

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    Washed up. Post retirement Joe Louis.
     
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    Th3Sav4ge "What the fuck is happening!?"

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    im not saying lennox lewis was the goat but hows he not on there at all
     
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    I don't have Floyd in my top 10, probably top 20.
     
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    Milton_Gracie Orange Belt

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    I read somewhere that Marciano was devastated that he had to beat on Louis his hero
     
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    Lol, that's not impressive
     
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    Ben Rothwell chokes both these fools
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    Serious pundits didn't put Ali in the conversation either during his reign. It wasn't until Ali retired that he started to get the recognition he deserved. Same will probably happen for Floyd as he has accomplished a lot and he has an argument for easily being top 5.

    - Floyd has been champion in multiple weight classes
    - he has a resume filled with future hall of famers(something most fighters don't have)
    - in an era of compubox, he has the statistics that shows when its comes to the game of Boxing, which is hit and don't get hit, he is the best.
    - as well as the fact that he, like Marciano, is undefeated.

    Floyd has a great case based on those facts alone. I don't know where they will rank him in the future but because he is hated in his time just like Ali was during his time, he isn't getting ranked fairly right now.
     
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    that not Anthony Joshua.
     
  12. Takamine86

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    the correct response was

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    I kind of like Fury he's a man's man and has a sharp wit to him and is the kind of guy you'd want to have your back

    Wilder, he seems alright too and actually I don't know much about him but so far so good.. I think they both respect eachother and I enjoyed this video.
     
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    GOAT discussion is even more bullshit in boxing considering it's an older sport.
    P4P it's already fantasy speculation, GOAT means the best P4P in all eras, good luck finding consensus with that.

    Actually all this GOAT crap in mma forums started because some mma fans wanted to copy those smug "boxing pundit" on a high horse pretending to know what they are talking about meanwhile they have no clue.
     
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    well yea, you can say the same in boxing
     
  16. gono btw

    gono btw Rounds...

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    top 3 is a lock.

    SRR, Armstrong, Ali. (choose the order)

    Like Titans, they´ve become [and the era when they fought> Fight Configuration] mythical.

    I have Sweet Pea @ 4.

    Never seen any ol´school puttin´PBF in the top5.
     
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    AimedWithV Wound in the Force

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    Who is PBF?

    And I see that Boxrec have Sweet Pea at number 29 and don't have Armstrong at all.
    Isn't it weird?
     
  18. gono btw

    gono btw Rounds...

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    Pretty Boy Floyd, his ol´name...

    Armstrong is a lock @ top 3. Like forever...

    Sweet Pea... personal choice, but some ol´school dudes see it that way too...

    I´ve kept this ol´ranking, when Ring was still serious...

    Ring Magazine's 80 Best Fighters of the Last 80 Years

    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Henry Armstrong
    3. Muhammad Ali
    4. Joe Louis
    5. Roberto Duran
    6. Willie Pep
    7. Harry Greb
    8. Benny Leonard
    9. Sugar Ray Leonard
    10. Pernell Whitaker
    11. Carlos Monzon
    12. Rocky Marciano
    13. Ezzard Charles
    14. Archie Moore
    15. Sandy Saddler
    16. Jack Dempsey
    17. Marvin Hagler
    18. Julio Cesar Chavez
    19. Eder Jofre
    20. Alexis Arguello
    21. Barney Ross
    22. Evander Holyfield
    23. Ike Williams
    24. Salvador Sanchez
    25. George Foreman
    26. Kid Gavilian
    27. Larry Holmes
    28. Mickey Walker
    29. Ruben Olivares
    30. Gene Tunney
    31. Dick Tiger
    32. Fighting Harada
    33. Emile Griffith
    34. Tony Canzoneri
    35. Aaron Pryor
    36. Pascual Perez
    37. Miguel Canto
    38. Manuel Ortiz
    39. Charley Burley
    40. Carmen Basilio
    41. Michael Spinks
    42. Joe Frazier
    43. Khaosai Galaxy
    44. Roy Jones Jr.
    45. Tiger Flowers
    46. Panama Al Brown
    47. Kid Chocolate
    48. Joe Brown
    49. Tommy Loughran
    50. Bernard Hopkins
    51. Felix Trinidad
    52. Jake LaMotta
    53. Lennox Lewis
    54. Wilfredo Gomez
    55. Bob Foster
    56. Jose Napoles
    57. Billy Conn
    58. Jimmy McLarnin
    59. Pancho Villa
    60. Carlos Ortiz
    61. Bob Montgomery
    62. Freddie Miller
    63. Benny Lynch
    64. Beau Jack
    65. Azumah Nelson
    66. Eusebio Pedroza
    67. Thomas Hearns
    68. Wilfred Benitez
    69. Antonio Cervantes
    70. Ricardo Lopez
    71. Sonny Liston
    72. Mike Tyson
    73. Vicente Saldivar
    74. Gene Fullmer
    75. Oscar De La Hoya
    76. Carlos Zarate
    77. Marcel Cerdan
    78. Flash Elorde
    79. Mike McCallum
    80. Harold Johnson

    Source: Ring Magazine (2002)
     
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    True, but most of Marciano's competition was on par with McGregor level opponents while Floyd actually has a resume filled with future hall of famers. Boxers in general have a lot of padded careers early on.
     
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