Ocasio Cortez compares debating to catcalling, refuses to debate Ben Shapiro.

[djacobox372]

Why are we talking about her so much? If she was a young white male liberal with the exact same views I doubt the right would be so rustled.

 

[Bargey]

Why are we talking about her so much? If she was a young white male liberal with the exact same views I doubt the right would be so rustled.

Rustled =/= laughing at her and her party that anointed her the next big thing

 

[bigkick]

Manly conservatives threatened by a small young woman. Sad, really.

https://www.vox.com/explainers/2018...sio-cortez-democratic-socialist-2018-midterms

 

[Deleted member 457759]

Lol this women. She's a classic example of a far left college girl whose ideas have never been challenged. She's managed to avoid, silence, and muzzle her opposition probably since she was a young teenager.

 

[BjPenn2017]

Lol this women. She's a classic example of a far left college girl whose ideas have never been challenged. She's managed to avoid, silence, and muzzle her opposition probably since she was a young teenager.

I think she was actually conservative in her younger years, when she had a business. Business went under, capitalism didn't work for her and she became a socialist.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

I think she was actually conservative in her younger years, when she had a business. Business went under, capitalism didn't work for her and she became a socialist.

For how long? Shes 26 so it sounds like she started a business and it failed almost instantly. Does that mean she was conservative? In an interview she said she was in community organizing "for many years". That doesn't sound like a conservative it sounds like she went to university right after high school

 

[lilelvis]

Lol this women. She's a classic example of a far left college girl whose ideas have never been challenged. She's managed to avoid, silence, and muzzle her opposition probably since she was a young teenager.

But,,,,,, Would you bang?

 

[DIDM]

You know you are scared when you ban the media from your town hall talks

Even CNN is calling her out on it

 

[lilelvis]

Why are we talking about her so much? If she was a young white male liberal with the exact same views I doubt the right would be so rustled.

Would the left be so enthusiastic? Would anyone have heard of "him"?

 

[chardog]

she'll need a crap load of practice before attempting to debate, it's not her strong suit.

good for her for avoiding, but that response is silly at best.

 

[Don Quixote]

For how long? Shes 26 so it sounds like she started a business and it failed almost instantly. Does that mean she was conservative? In an interview she said she was in community organizing "for many years". That doesn't sound like a conservative it sounds like she went to university right after high school

Perhaps she was just a cultural conservative?

 

[chardog]

Why are we talking about her so much? If she was a young white male liberal with the exact same views I doubt the right would be so rustled.

you are confused.

The right LOVES Occasio, the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

But,,,,,, Would you bang?

Indeedereeno!!

 

[lifelessheap]

"How elegantly his points were refuted"


And none of the many Shapiro fangirls in here have pointed me to an actual good example of a good debate performance from him, or why exactly they felt he did so well against Cenk. Where did Cenk fail and "embarrass" himself? Im looking at the actual CONTENT of their words

In a later post I did bring up his tactic of bringing up tangential information to try and drive home a point that wasn't ever made, or mischaracterises his opponents argument. ( i talked about his comments on US healthcare ranking) Aside from him intentionally trying to mislead about health care, he had some moronic remarks about money being speech, and that he can do what "he damn well pleases" with his money were moronic and wrong. (And another of his forceful speaking tactics to get applause)

He tries to frame the argument in his own simplistic terms. Cenk brought up how conservatives only like small government when it's about shit they don't want the government meddling in...but wars, abortions. ..subsidies. .bring on big Gov.
Shapiro's reply was "well, overall, you want more government spending, and i want less"
You can't frame the conversation in that way and have a genuine discussion. Shapiro will make comments like this, and then say something snarky or sharp ("to say anything against this is a lie!") At the end for applause, and then he's crowned as the winner. Lol its absurd.

Shapiro's debating style is that of an immature adolescence..albeit an intelligent one.
They came there to debate politics, lol why did he come prepared with personal attacks ready to talk about Cenk's personal business and finances? He made a ridiculous comparison between Cenk's business getting an investment from a busiessman, as being the same, or similar to corporations giving money to politicians. It was a ridiculous comparison
Im sure there was other stuff that made me shake my head, but that's all I recall on the fly, or really care to talk about

I give him credit. He has a style that is popular . He is probably able to shut down a lot of people because he speaks a million miles a minute, and mixes in just enough facts and information to make you second guess yourself. And the cursing, snark, and personal attacks are what the majority of peabrains remember in a debate, and how they choose a 'winnerz'.
I don't think the guy is stupid, but as i keep saying, speaking fast and "eloquently" does not equal making good arguments.

That moderator should've been doing a lot more moderating
Your 93/7 score just shows that content doesn't matter. Whomever is the biggest, loudest asshole, wins
And to be clear, my argument isn't even "Cenk won". I was commenting on the ridiculous praise this guy was getting in this thread as some sort of genius debater. Yes, he would beat Ocasio in a debate, but it would have nothing to do with intelligence

Are you insinuating that Cenk isn't the biggest, loudest asshole when compared to the tiny jew?

lol

 

[Kindacrazy]

Manly conservatives threatened by a small young woman. Sad, really.

https://www.vox.com/explainers/2018...sio-cortez-democratic-socialist-2018-midterms

You think conservatives are threatened by her? Shes the deathkneel of the lefts hope for grabbing middle America. She will be eviscerated in the corporate media on both sides. She will be played up by the right as "the new communist face of the democratic party". She will have a bunch of morons on the left crying about how beautiful it is.

The girl is an idiot, and the damage she has already done is tremendous.

 

[bigkick]

You think conservatives are threatened by her? Shes the deathkneel of the lefts hope for grabbing middle America. She will be eviscerated in the corporate media on both sides. She will be played up by the right as "the new communist face of the democratic party". She will have a bunch of morons on the left crying about how beautiful it is.

The girl is an idiot, and the damage she has already done is tremendous.

Why do you say she's an idiot? Can you provide some examples? I've heard a lot of the usual rightwing nonsense, along the same lines as "Obama is a Muslim," but nothing legit or substantial.

 

[BjPenn2017]

Why do you say she's an idiot? Can you provide some examples? I've heard a lot of the usual rightwing nonsense, along the same lines as "Obama is a Muslim," but nothing legit or substantial.

Lol look up when she was asked about Israel I think and you'll see what everyone's talking about.

 

[Bargey]

Why do you say she's an idiot? Can you provide some examples? I've heard a lot of the usual rightwing nonsense, along the same lines as "Obama is a Muslim," but nothing legit or substantial.

Comical post. Pull up a video of her talking or her twitter of the topic of this thread and maybe then you will have some clue

 

[Kindacrazy]

Why do you say she's an idiot? Can you provide some examples? I've heard a lot of the usual rightwing nonsense, along the same lines as "Obama is a Muslim," but nothing legit or substantial.

Shes part of the socialists of America, which is an actual legitimate communist group. Their goal is literally to "seize the means of production". Pretty much every time she has opened her mouth in public she has said something stupid. Shes only been around for a month and shes compared being challenged to a debate to catcalling. Statements like, employment is low because everyone has two jobs are beyond ignorant. Much of what she says is simply factually untrue, like the idea that the middle class is working 60-80 hours a week when in reality its closer to 35. People are literally working less then ever and shes painting a picture of slave labor camps. Shes about as well informed as the average sherdog poster.

 

[n...not crazy]

Why are we talking about her so much? If she was a young white male liberal with the exact same views I doubt the right would be so rustled.

Because she sticks out like a sore thumb. She's Sarah Palin II.
It is normal to notice such things, and we need something to talk about so we can ignore the new NFL tackling rules.