NY Times Serena Williams wrong, Men Penalized significantly more, no Sexism to women

She literally called the cops on the random test collector and hid in her safe room. The cops came and identified the man, and she still hid. Fucking cheater. Dude, she looks like a man
She didn't call the cops, her personal assistant called the cops because the tester didn't identify himself and only identified himself when the cops showed up. Besides when the tester showed up at her home she was not competing, she was inactive. In addition that was 7 years ago, she has been tested regularly and never failed, so until she fails a test and until there is more proof than a missed test 7 years ago, she's clean.
 
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Somehow, I doubt a tester refused to identify themselves.
Why would they? It's literally the first thing they'd say.
"I'm so and so from blah blah labs here to test so and so for the yadda provisions of wonk wonk..."
 
Somehow, I doubt a tester refused to identify themselves.
Why would they? It's literally the first thing they'd say.
"I'm so and so from blah blah labs here to test so and so for the yadda provisions of wonk wonk..."
The tester was on her property at 6 am and her personal assistant called the police before he came to her door. The tester didn't identify himself until after the cops arrived.
 
The tester was on her property at 6 am and her personal assistant called the police before he came to her door. The tester didn't identify himself until after the cops arrived.
According to...

And the tester said...

?

"Who are you and why are you on my property?"

"Fuck you, gimme your piss!"
 
According to...

And the tester said...

?

"Who are you and why are you on my property?"

"Fuck you, gimme your piss!"
According to the articles about the incident. Her personal assistant called the police when the tester arrived on her property and the tester identified himself to the police then they left.

Also stalkers have shown up on her property before claiming to be things such as law enforcement, she's also had someone stalk her around the world for 2 years, which is why she has a panic room.
 
According to the articles about the incident. Her personal assistant called the police when the tester arrived on her property and the tester identified himself to the police then they left. Stalkers have shown up on her property before claiming to be law enforcement and drug agents.
Kinda sounds like they identified themselves and somebody wasn't satisfied.
 
Somehow, I doubt a tester refused to identify themselves.
Why would they? It's literally the first thing they'd say.
"I'm so and so from blah blah labs here to test so and so for the yadda provisions of wonk wonk..."

I found this quite interesting.

Serena has faced allegations of drug use throughout her career and for good reason.

  1. It was alleged that she managed to evade drug testers (for OC) entirely for two years in 2010 and 2011. She covered up failed ICs by citing phantom injuries. She also famously locked herself in a panic room and called 911 when an out-of-competition tester called on her in October 2011. She never provided a sample afterwards and the tennis authorities did not answer why.
  2. Serena was one of the players (including Venus Williams, Jennifer Capriati and Lindsey Davenport) who protested against the WTA’s new drug testing rules in 2000 which led to the cancellation of WTA’s off-season testing program too. She has protested vociferously against any attempts made by the WTA/ITF to make testing more rigorous and stringent. She once reportedly declared that “women don’t need to be tested because women don’t take steroids”. She also raised similar objections before the 2004 Olympics in Athens until the WTA gave in. However, the IOC did not and Williams ended up withdrawing from the games citing “terrorism fears” in Greece!
  3. A stronger and more incriminating pointer was the pulmonary embolism and hematoma that Williams suffered in March 2011. Since embolisms and DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis) are often associated with sedentary lifestyles, it is surprising when healthy athletes develop the condition. However, it is not rare and there is enough evidence to suggest a link between anabolic steroid use and embolisms in athletes. In fact, anabolic steroid use is one of the biggest risk factors for the condition. Some body builders will also agree that hematomas often occur while injecting steroids.
  4. Another factor is Serena’s playing schedule. She takes an awful amount of time off during the year, playing only a few tournaments other than the Grand Slams. Many have questioned how it is possible for a player to win and dominate the game the way Serena does, while not playing it actively through the year. Is she super-human or does she need the time-off for her “juicing cycle”?
  5. Over the years, Serena has exhibited unpleasant and bizarre on-court behavior that may be attributed to “roid rage” - a“mysterious illness” that caused her to forfeit a Wimbledon doubles match due to poor co-ordination, death threats that she aimed at a line judge during a 2009 US Open semifinal, breaking racquets, a tirade against an umpire during the 2011 US Open final etc.
The voices against doping in pro-tennis in general and against Serena Williams in particular, are getting louder and more confident as new data comes to light every year. The Sharapova episode is perhaps only the tip of the iceberg. One could look up Serena on tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot (an insider, whistle-blower blog) for more comprehensive data and analysis on this question.

To conclude, - HIGHLY LIKELY. Given the current state of things, who knows if she will ever be caught!

UPDATE 15 Sep 2016: In the light of WADA’s data published by Fancy Bears, the group allied with Anonymous, the hacktivist entity, this question has become even more pertinent. TUEs allow athletes to take banned substances solely for the purpose of treating injuries or inflammation, for a brief period (usually a few days). Some commentators were quick to point out that some of the TUEs (Therapeutic Use Exemptions) given to Serena Williams were backdated, which means that they were authorized much after the medication was taken, with the complicity of ITF.

One Russian official Perviy Kanal described the U.S. athletes as “invalids” on a pro-Kremlin TV channel. "I have the impression that we are dealing with invalids, because they are prescribed incredible combinations of potent drugs. Three of them are narcotics, for the distribution of which one can receive a long prison sentence both in Russia and in Europe” he said.

Given the politics that pervade anti-doping administration worldwide, this does not necessarily prove anything. However it is important to note that backdated TUEs did come up during the investigation of Lance Armstrong (another athlete who never got caught for many years). Fancy Bears is only alleging that Serena abused the TUE system to dope but many believe that the rot extends much beyond TUEs alone.

UPDATE 1 Oct 2016: A couple of news outlets have reported that Serena told CNN that she plans to take a break from tennis as she is “tired of playing tournaments unhealthy”. This was in spite of playing only 8 tournaments this year.

What I find interesting about this announcement is that it comes right after the Fancy Bears leak and more importantly recent ITF ruling that they’re going to do away with “silent bans” in order to salvage their reputation from further damage.

http://www.itftennis.com/news/237425.aspx

Obviously, this means that players who have been covering up bans with phantom injuries (like Serena?) may not be able to do so any longer.
 
I found this quite interesting.

Serena has faced allegations of drug use throughout her career and for good reason.

  1. It was alleged that she managed to evade drug testers (for OC) entirely for two years in 2010 and 2011. She covered up failed ICs by citing phantom injuries. She also famously locked herself in a panic room and called 911 when an out-of-competition tester called on her in October 2011. She never provided a sample afterwards and the tennis authorities did not answer why.
  2. Serena was one of the players (including Venus Williams, Jennifer Capriati and Lindsey Davenport) who protested against the WTA’s new drug testing rules in 2000 which led to the cancellation of WTA’s off-season testing program too. She has protested vociferously against any attempts made by the WTA/ITF to make testing more rigorous and stringent. She once reportedly declared that “women don’t need to be tested because women don’t take steroids”. She also raised similar objections before the 2004 Olympics in Athens until the WTA gave in. However, the IOC did not and Williams ended up withdrawing from the games citing “terrorism fears” in Greece!
  3. A stronger and more incriminating pointer was the pulmonary embolism and hematoma that Williams suffered in March 2011. Since embolisms and DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis) are often associated with sedentary lifestyles, it is surprising when healthy athletes develop the condition. However, it is not rare and there is enough evidence to suggest a link between anabolic steroid use and embolisms in athletes. In fact, anabolic steroid use is one of the biggest risk factors for the condition. Some body builders will also agree that hematomas often occur while injecting steroids.
  4. Another factor is Serena’s playing schedule. She takes an awful amount of time off during the year, playing only a few tournaments other than the Grand Slams. Many have questioned how it is possible for a player to win and dominate the game the way Serena does, while not playing it actively through the year. Is she super-human or does she need the time-off for her “juicing cycle”?
  5. Over the years, Serena has exhibited unpleasant and bizarre on-court behavior that may be attributed to “roid rage” - a“mysterious illness” that caused her to forfeit a Wimbledon doubles match due to poor co-ordination, death threats that she aimed at a line judge during a 2009 US Open semifinal, breaking racquets, a tirade against an umpire during the 2011 US Open final etc.
The voices against doping in pro-tennis in general and against Serena Williams in particular, are getting louder and more confident as new data comes to light every year. The Sharapova episode is perhaps only the tip of the iceberg. One could look up Serena on tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot (an insider, whistle-blower blog) for more comprehensive data and analysis on this question.

To conclude, - HIGHLY LIKELY. Given the current state of things, who knows if she will ever be caught!

UPDATE 15 Sep 2016: In the light of WADA’s data published by Fancy Bears, the group allied with Anonymous, the hacktivist entity, this question has become even more pertinent. TUEs allow athletes to take banned substances solely for the purpose of treating injuries or inflammation, for a brief period (usually a few days). Some commentators were quick to point out that some of the TUEs (Therapeutic Use Exemptions) given to Serena Williams were backdated, which means that they were authorized much after the medication was taken, with the complicity of ITF.

One Russian official Perviy Kanal described the U.S. athletes as “invalids” on a pro-Kremlin TV channel. "I have the impression that we are dealing with invalids, because they are prescribed incredible combinations of potent drugs. Three of them are narcotics, for the distribution of which one can receive a long prison sentence both in Russia and in Europe” he said.

Given the politics that pervade anti-doping administration worldwide, this does not necessarily prove anything. However it is important to note that backdated TUEs did come up during the investigation of Lance Armstrong (another athlete who never got caught for many years). Fancy Bears is only alleging that Serena abused the TUE system to dope but many believe that the rot extends much beyond TUEs alone.

UPDATE 1 Oct 2016: A couple of news outlets have reported that Serena told CNN that she plans to take a break from tennis as she is “tired of playing tournaments unhealthy”. This was in spite of playing only 8 tournaments this year.

What I find interesting about this announcement is that it comes right after the Fancy Bears leak and more importantly recent ITF ruling that they’re going to do away with “silent bans” in order to salvage their reputation from further damage.

http://www.itftennis.com/news/237425.aspx

Obviously, this means that players who have been covering up bans with phantom injuries (like Serena?) may not be able to do so any longer.

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I'm just not buying the "refused to identify themselves" story.

An official, on official business.

"Who are you?"

"You don't get to know that!!" ...I don't buy it at all.
 
I found this quite interesting.

Serena has faced allegations of drug use throughout her career and for good reason.

  1. It was alleged that she managed to evade drug testers (for OC) entirely for two years in 2010 and 2011. She covered up failed ICs by citing phantom injuries. She also famously locked herself in a panic room and called 911 when an out-of-competition tester called on her in October 2011. She never provided a sample afterwards and the tennis authorities did not answer why.
  2. Serena was one of the players (including Venus Williams, Jennifer Capriati and Lindsey Davenport) who protested against the WTA’s new drug testing rules in 2000 which led to the cancellation of WTA’s off-season testing program too. She has protested vociferously against any attempts made by the WTA/ITF to make testing more rigorous and stringent. She once reportedly declared that “women don’t need to be tested because women don’t take steroids”. She also raised similar objections before the 2004 Olympics in Athens until the WTA gave in. However, the IOC did not and Williams ended up withdrawing from the games citing “terrorism fears” in Greece!
  3. A stronger and more incriminating pointer was the pulmonary embolism and hematoma that Williams suffered in March 2011. Since embolisms and DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis) are often associated with sedentary lifestyles, it is surprising when healthy athletes develop the condition. However, it is not rare and there is enough evidence to suggest a link between anabolic steroid use and embolisms in athletes. In fact, anabolic steroid use is one of the biggest risk factors for the condition. Some body builders will also agree that hematomas often occur while injecting steroids.
  4. Another factor is Serena’s playing schedule. She takes an awful amount of time off during the year, playing only a few tournaments other than the Grand Slams. Many have questioned how it is possible for a player to win and dominate the game the way Serena does, while not playing it actively through the year. Is she super-human or does she need the time-off for her “juicing cycle”?
  5. Over the years, Serena has exhibited unpleasant and bizarre on-court behavior that may be attributed to “roid rage” - a“mysterious illness” that caused her to forfeit a Wimbledon doubles match due to poor co-ordination, death threats that she aimed at a line judge during a 2009 US Open semifinal, breaking racquets, a tirade against an umpire during the 2011 US Open final etc.
The voices against doping in pro-tennis in general and against Serena Williams in particular, are getting louder and more confident as new data comes to light every year. The Sharapova episode is perhaps only the tip of the iceberg. One could look up Serena on tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot (an insider, whistle-blower blog) for more comprehensive data and analysis on this question.

To conclude, - HIGHLY LIKELY. Given the current state of things, who knows if she will ever be caught!

UPDATE 15 Sep 2016: In the light of WADA’s data published by Fancy Bears, the group allied with Anonymous, the hacktivist entity, this question has become even more pertinent. TUEs allow athletes to take banned substances solely for the purpose of treating injuries or inflammation, for a brief period (usually a few days). Some commentators were quick to point out that some of the TUEs (Therapeutic Use Exemptions) given to Serena Williams were backdated, which means that they were authorized much after the medication was taken, with the complicity of ITF.

One Russian official Perviy Kanal described the U.S. athletes as “invalids” on a pro-Kremlin TV channel. "I have the impression that we are dealing with invalids, because they are prescribed incredible combinations of potent drugs. Three of them are narcotics, for the distribution of which one can receive a long prison sentence both in Russia and in Europe” he said.

Given the politics that pervade anti-doping administration worldwide, this does not necessarily prove anything. However it is important to note that backdated TUEs did come up during the investigation of Lance Armstrong (another athlete who never got caught for many years). Fancy Bears is only alleging that Serena abused the TUE system to dope but many believe that the rot extends much beyond TUEs alone.

UPDATE 1 Oct 2016: A couple of news outlets have reported that Serena told CNN that she plans to take a break from tennis as she is “tired of playing tournaments unhealthy”. This was in spite of playing only 8 tournaments this year.

What I find interesting about this announcement is that it comes right after the Fancy Bears leak and more importantly recent ITF ruling that they’re going to do away with “silent bans” in order to salvage their reputation from further damage.

http://www.itftennis.com/news/237425.aspx

Obviously, this means that players who have been covering up bans with phantom injuries (like Serena?) may not be able to do so any longer.
Lot's of tennis players protested the new tennis drug policy as unnecessary and a pain in the ass. She withdrew from Athens because of a knee injury for which she was already getting therapy
Over the past few years she's played a limited schedule to help prolong her career and yes she is super human .Roger Federer does the same thing, he skips the entire clay season.
None of Serena's TUE's were retroactive, she was given verbal permission at the tournaments by the tournament doctors, the dates on the paperwork are when they were submitted to the ITF.
She suffered a pulmonary embolism from a cut on her foot. She was sidelined for a year because of the foot injury before she even had the embolism.
A mysterious roid rage incident at Wimbledon? she looked drunk, not roid raging.
Argument's with refs a sign of roid rage? Was McEnroe roid raging when he was breaking rackets and getting into arguments with refs?

Please stop making a fool of yourself.
 
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So now out of curiosity, I'm trying to look at articles concerning the "refused to identify themselves" incident.

When was it? I found something from last year that mentioned "An assistant let the USADA officer into the home, and the officer refused to leave until Williams had been tested."
Was it the "panic room" incident in 2011?
 
Please stop making a fool of yourself.

You really should take that advice.

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She acted beyond annoying and her argument that it was sexist had nothing to do with nothing. oh, i'm a woman you're treating me differently. pls just stfu.

What an absolute brat. It was so annoying.

There's a point, I guess, where you get so famous that you think you can get away with everything every time and one time you don't get away with it, you cry like a bitch.
 
Serena Williams' Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs)
Date for use/Date given/Substance

*Oct 2010 - Mar 2011/23 Dec/Hydromorphone
*Dec 2010/23 Dec/Oxycodone
*Nov 27-Dec 1 2010/23 Dec/Methylprednisolone
*12-19 Mar 2014/13th Mar/Prednisone
*21-30 Mar 2014/2 Apr/Prednisone
*7-21 May 2014/8 May/Prednisone
*10-17 Nov 2014/3 Dec/Prednisone, Oxycodone
*5-10 June 2015/8 Jun/Prednisolone

Most of these TUEs were retroactive, meaning that they allow use of the banned substance prior to the granting of the TUE.
 
She didn't call the cops, her personal assistant called the cops because the tester didn't identify himself and only identified himself when the cops showed up. Besides when the tester showed up at her home she was not competing, she was inactive. In addition that was 7 years ago, she has been tested regularly and never failed, so until she fails a test and until there is more proof than a missed test 7 years ago, she's clean.
So is Barry bonds and roger Clemens then
Oh and mark mcguire
 
Hope this doesn't come off as racist or sexist or whatever other clubs she belongs to, but she is a fucking bitch and i fully support the woman who beat her.
 
She can't help it if superior genetics have left her thick and sexy.

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She has morphed into Ving Rhames, ffs. I guess we all watch Pulp Fiction for diiferent reasons.
 
This reminds me of the time a co-worker brought in a magazine highlighting female bodybuilding. He went around and around to no avail trying to convince us all that that shit is sexy as hell.
Nobody bought it, and I just dismissed him as some kind of latent.
 
Serena Williams' Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs)
Date for use/Date given/Substance

*Oct 2010 - Mar 2011/23 Dec/Hydromorphone
*Dec 2010/23 Dec/Oxycodone
*Nov 27-Dec 1 2010/23 Dec/Methylprednisolone
*12-19 Mar 2014/13th Mar/Prednisone
*21-30 Mar 2014/2 Apr/Prednisone
*7-21 May 2014/8 May/Prednisone
*10-17 Nov 2014/3 Dec/Prednisone, Oxycodone
*5-10 June 2015/8 Jun/Prednisolone

Most of these TUEs were retroactive, meaning that they allow use of the banned substance prior to the granting of the TUE.
She was given verbal permission by tournament doctors for those substances before the tournament. So no they are not retroactive.
 
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