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  1. Contempt black belt in couch-fu

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    ...and there are people who areadly work hard but are pushing 40 so can use a little help like some of the guys in this thread.
     
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    Exactly Contempt, @JohnnyTowers, I don't know if you read the posts in this thread. Like I've said I train 6 days a week body permitting, hours at a time. I put in more work than anyone I know outside a PT friend who works out for a job.

    It ain't about hard work or not. It's more that a little something can allow the recovery to be able to work hard.
     
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    ok
     
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    Sure, why not.
     
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    It sounds nice, but what if it shrinks your balls and you can't get it up anymore after you stop taking? Plus, I heard of so many guys dying from heart failure on steroids. It just doesn't seem worth it.



    I know you guys are talking about smaller doses than bodybuilders and SARMS are supposed to be a mild version, but still seems like playing with fire.
     
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    Yeah. A lot of research was had before starting because of those exact worries.

    There is no reported associated permanent loss of sex drive.

    With the heart it's a matter of understanding the mechanism of said failures. All the best answers I could find were that rapid growth of the heart can cause weaknesses which lead to failure in those extreme cases.

    I have drunk alcohol in the past, too much can kill you, less won't, I don't see it being much different. I certainly wouldn't do more powerful PEDs because of the risk but even so, you have to remember they were doing aaaaallllll the steroids, HGH etc during times where the effects were poorly understood. TRT is a good example of where we've come, that low doses of t are seen as harmless enough, heart wise, to give to old men.

    But at the end of the day you take your chances and I sure hope it falls in my favour. I wish to remain active, muscle and fitness correlate with longevity so I have reason to believe I may be improving my quality of life and maybe even duration.

    I'll keep you posted..
     
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    It's interesting that sleeping a lot is often mentioned, not only in threads such as this one, but also by a lot of athletes. Personally, my experience is very different: My physical fitness is at its peak when I sleep 4-6.5 hours and my sex drive is also at its highest when I don't sleep that much (my mental fitness needs more sleep, though). I sort of feel "mellowed out" when I sleep longer while I feel like an animal if I exercise a lot and then don't sleep that much.
     
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    2/3 through second course. Have a massive cold atm, lifts been going up, weight stable.

    Now football season over here has started in ernest patella tendinitis has flared up, shit is fucking annoying. If I could be free of injury I'd be a monster.
     
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    creatine, more calories and sleep
     
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    Amen to that. I am just finally getting back into it slowly after 6,5 weeks on the shelf because of my elbow. Getting old is really annoying.
     
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