Non-MMA Sports Betting Discussion - June, 2018

Discussion in 'MMA Betting Discussion' started by iGnP, Jun 2, 2018.

  1. iGnP

    iGnP Silver Belt

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    Already bet on the White Sox. Gl
     
  2. mkess101

    mkess101 85 or bust...

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    Interesting. I think Shields' numbers are probably a LITTLE worse than he's actually pitched this year, but he's still well below average. Plutko for the Indians pitched pretty well in 2 of his 3 major league outings, but such a small sample size (and in MAY no less) that he's kind of an unknown. But the Indians are just such a better lineup. They score well more than 1 full run per game on average than the White Sox, which is a huge gap in offensive production between the 2 team.
     
  3. iGnP

    iGnP Silver Belt

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    Plutko's pitched well? I dont see it. He gave up 3 home runs to the BJs, got lucky against the Cubs (4 strike-outs, 4 walks, .133 BABIP), and gave up 2 home runs to the White Sox while only recording 2 strike outs through 21 batters
     
  4. mkess101

    mkess101 85 or bust...

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    He gave up 3 solo homers to the Blue Jays sure, but only allowed 3 total other baserunners (6 K's and no BB's too). So yeah, for sure that's a good outing to me for a pitcher over 6+ innings. He did walk 4 guys vs the Cubs but again only allowed 2 other baserunners and gave up 0 runs over 6 innings. Even if you want to say that zero runs was flukey and turn that into a 2 or a 3, it's still a solid outing. And yeah he had a stinker vs the White Sox in his third start.

    It's probably too small a sample size to take a ton away from. I don't think he's anything special at all. He has average major league stuff, he'll never be more than a back of the rotation type guy (ceiling maybe a #3 on a bad team). But Shields has been worse, with a bigger sample size. Even if Shields has been a bit unlucky, his K:BB ratio is worse than Plutko's (again, only 3 starts for Plutko so take from that what you will) and this is now his third year in a row with very high ERA and WHIP. I know you put less stock in those #'s than some others, but how long does a guy need to consistently get knocked around before he's not "unlucky", but just bad?
     
  5. iGnP

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    Idk what to say, Plutko is literally the type of guy you want to fade with his relatively decent ERA but terrible underlying statistics. 18.1 total innings pitched, given up 19 hits + walks, 5 home runs, and those numbers could be/should be worse. He has a .180 BABIP, which is ridiculously unsustainable. Also, >90% LOB %.

    Shields isn't good, that much is true. But i dont think Plutko is any better. Taking +135 was a no brainer to me, especially w ho wbad the Indians bullpen has been too
     
  6. mkess101

    mkess101 85 or bust...

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    Sox pen isn't good either though. And if we agree both pitchers are below average, one is facing one of the better hitting teams in baseball and one is facing one of the worst.
     
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    COL Rockies x PHI Phillies - Under 7.0 @1.90
    NY Mets x ATL Braves - Under 8.5 @1.83
     
  8. mkess101

    mkess101 85 or bust...

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    Indians price dropping. Guess I was wrong on that one. Not a significant amount but still. Oops.
     
  9. iGnP

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    It's chalky, but diamondbacks might be a play tonight
     
  10. mkess101

    mkess101 85 or bust...

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    Congrats man, Shields found the time machine tonight!
     
  11. iGnP

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    Not really... its just luck. 2 strike outs in 6 innings pitched isnt a good outing. He's lucky to have only given up 2 hits today.
     
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    mkess101 85 or bust...

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    LOL yeah some of it. Cleveland has hit a few hard balls right at guys. Still better than what he's looked like in a long time. A lot more soft contact than he normally gets.
     
  13. iGnP

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    I'm gonna be sick... what a way to lose the Phillies/Rockies under.
     
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  14. ill800

    ill800 Founder of Eugenics Society of Gambling

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    Yea I’m losing late on these unders
     
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    at least the diamondbacks are off to a good start. im looking live bet the over in the HOU/OAK game. Mccullers doesnt look good, got lucky to get a dp, and the houston offense is always top tier
     
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    took o8.5 (-105) for half a unit
     
  17. ill800

    ill800 Founder of Eugenics Society of Gambling

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    Took the rangers -1.5 at +260

    Thought there was some value there
     
  18. iGnP

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    what did the line close at btw? just the MLs
     
  19. ill800

    ill800 Founder of Eugenics Society of Gambling

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    I think it was +165 for the rangers. Dodgers were way too juiced

    Of course the orioles decide to blow the under agaisnt Kimbrel in the bottom of the 9th

    Give me a break
     
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    gonna live bet Seattle now that the Angels tied the score up. mariners have a better bullpen
     

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