Ngannou vs Prime Cro Cop in a ring | Page 2

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  1. bigconan Red Belt

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    If you look at all the current heavyweights in boxing, through out history...the best of all time, were always around the 215-220 range..always...ali, foreman, frazier, tyson...tyson at his best was 215-218lbs...
     
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    Are you so sure?
    Where has been Kharitonov all these years if he was so good?
    I mean, if you say that all the top ten guys have been there for the last decade, where is Sergei?

    Getting taken down and submitted by UFC legend Jeff Monson and getting koed by Singh Jaideep in kickboxing, that's where he has been.
     
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    Cro Cop was a pretty special athlete despite his smallish size at HW. Schaub said CC was the strongest opponent he fought.
     
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    2004 HWGP Kharitonov had great skills.
     
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    Yeah because he got old. Some guys don’t age the same skills way, or have different physical primes.

    Do you think this shit is some kind of video game or something? Do you not have the ability to grasp simple concepts like the passage of time?

    He has wins over three current top ten fighters:

    - Overeem

    - Andrei

    - Werdum

    It’s like, fucking lol for Christ’s sake.
     
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    as a casual idiot i believe ngannou beats anyone from any era on the planet with ease
     
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    Tyson fought in the 90ies, look at the fighters today, in every combat sport.
    Anthony Joshua is huge, so is Wilder, Tyson Fury and the Klitschkos.


    Judo has Teddy Riner, fellow countryman of Ngannou, a giant.

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    Greco has Mijian Lopez, basically a black Karelin.

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    Freestyle had Artur Taymazov on top for years, a real life ogre.

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    Kickboxing has Rico Verhoeven, a fit athletic 260 pounds man.

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    In a recent interview he talked about Anderson Silva, not the mma fighter but the kickboxer, about a potential matchup.

    "Anderson Silva, he's okay. He's a good fighter, but he's not... Championship worthy is not the right words to say, but he's not on that level. He's been around for a few years, but I don't think he has the level to be the champion. I mean zero disrespect, because I love his style of fighting, but his body is just not built for real heavyweight. He's like 100 kilos. 102, 103. If you get a guy at 115 or 120 kilos, it's just a big difference."

    Anderson Silva is still bigger than Rob Kaman, Ernesto Hoost, Andy Hug and Crocop in their Kickboxing heyday, but today is a different ball game.
     
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    Beating those guys only counts if it's in the UFC.
     
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    Francis can be another Todd duffee for all we know lol.
     
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    Overeem has a win over him as well, when he was still fighting at 205.




    Kharitonov is a good fighter, don't get me wrong, but he is not as good as you think he is.
    Miocic is far better than him.
     
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    hey stick to tuff
     
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    Cro cop was not 200 lbs in pride. He was always between 220 to 228. Never was he close to 200lbs.

    And so what if he was a bit smaller. Cro cop was extremely strong and outmuscled most larger heavyweights in his prime. In a pure striking match, Mirko would embarrass Francis and only a close minded simpleton would argue against that
     
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    In K-1 he was, in Pride he was between 210- 220.
    Watched every K1 and Pride fight, so you better believe me.
     
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    Yeah he was actually smaller in K-1 while fighting and KO'ing some of the guys that were the same size as Rico is now.
     
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    Kickboxing in the 90's had bigger or same guys as Rico! Semmy, Bjorn, Hoost height wise, Aerts height wise, Bernardo, Alexey, Lebanner who was much more physical than Rico and these guys all had much more KO power as well.
     
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    You mean Bob Sapp and Jan Nortje? Those are freak show fighters.
     
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    CroCop off course !!!??
     
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    I put the names of some of the guys I was referring to.. did you not see that?
     
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    He was never 210 lbs in pride. Show me

    He may have been 210 when he was a kid in the very early days of his kickboxing. Show me where he was 210 in pride, because I don’t believe it for a second
     
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